Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[ForeverEverton]

Yes. £90m 2021-2022 season losses dropping off our PSR accounts.

2020 -£139,869,000
2021 -£120,934,000
2022 -£44,732,000
2023 -£89,090,000
2024 -£53,222,000

In the year ending 2024 we dropped off the 2 COVID years 2020 & 2021, these were combined for PSR purposes, and we passed that.... the accounts for this season just gone will be 2023, 2024 and the new accounts for 2025. Given we passed in 2024 I expect 2025 to be a much healthier set of accounts and give us more headroom for PSR but unfortunately the £90m doesn`t drop off till next year.

Just have to wait and see what the accounts say but we will be 9 months behind the curve in terms of what the club can see, hopefully TFG release accounts earlier than the previous mob.

 

[Zatara]

2020 -£139,869,000
2021 -£120,934,000
2022 -£44,732,000
2023 -£89,090,000
2024 -£53,222,000

In the year ending 2024 we dropped off the 2 COVID years 2020 & 2021, these were combined for PSR purposes, and we passed that.... the accounts for this season just gone will be 2023, 2024 and the new accounts for 2025. Given we passed in 2024 I expect 2025 to be a much healthier set of accounts and give us more headroom for PSR but unfortunately the £90m doesn`t drop off till next year.

Just have to wait and see what the accounts say but we will be 9 months behind the curve in terms of what the club can see, hopefully TFG release accounts earlier than the previous mob.

Those numbers of course are pre-deductions. Hard to tell where we are in 2025/26 though its clear we need mass lucrative revenue streams...none of which seem on the horizon.

 

[NikNak8]

A 30 million contract's amortization value is 6 million per year if player signs a five year contract. That's over the entire year. If player signs on June 1st and financial year ends in June 30th amortization is just 1/12 of that annual cost. So about half a million (yes, my mistake talking about 400k).

Plus a months wages while they are on holidays

 

[Librarian]

Its as obvious as day,

I hoped for a free transfer or loan confirmed before July 1st but on the proviso we’re not ran by the muppets, we should see activity in two weeks.

That being said, I suppose Charley Alcaraz counts as a “signing” despite nothing will be official before FY25

I think Alcaraz fee falls into 2024-25 (or half of it anyway) because we triggered a deal that was agreed in 24/25, so £6.3m per year over 2 years.

 

[NikNak8]

A Grealish loan would not cost us £350k per week. He's not getting that money anywhere else, so Man City will have to eat the majority. A 12 month loan deal would be circa £150pw, which would be a good bit of business to get a player of that calibre in. If it's a success, there's a negotiation option for a deal with City regarding transfer/salary - assuming he wants to come and will take a lower salary (which I'm sure he will).

Tagliafico - he's still Argentina's first choice left back. He's good enough and on a free from Lyon won't be seeking ridiculous wages. Offers needed competition with Mykolenko. He won't be after a payday at 32, he's looking for football and will be paid accordingly.

Walker, again won't be a £160k pw deal. Reports were that he'd agreed a wage of circa £50/60k with Milan should they have elected to keep him. City will pay him off to clear the salary from the books allowing him to join us for free (or a nominal fee as with Gareth Barry). I've come round on this one, if a 12-month deal for no transfer outlay and a sensible salary is available, it should be a "no-brainer" to coin a phrase. Experienced, free and despite reports to the contrary still capable. He's not going be able to get up and down the field and be the right side of City, as he could and did 5 years ago under Pep. But he shouldn't need to with the way we line up.

Financially sensible deals of this nature allow us to focus our spending this summer on positions of requirement - midfield, striker, right wing. All whilst improving the squad at three positions immediately.

Why wouldnt he be after a payday at 32 in what is potentially his last contract? When it comes to footballers IMO 99% of them are always after a payday.

 

[Walken]

That is the Everton way to "Tread Water", I have faith that the new owners and this committee can return better returns than just treading water.... we have a fairly solid base and fairly youthful squad left, it needs building the right way not throwing loads of mid 30 year old over the hill players on expensive wages at it.

I think that's fantasy to be honest, we are losing about 15 players or whatever, if you think each and every signing will be a every week starter and improvement on what's left you need to temper those expectations.

I hope we sign 2 or 3 that improve us, a couple for the future but after that there will be some squad fillers for sure

 

[Walken]

I agree, but with the caveat that there are some positions where gun signings are more important than others. A link like Tagliafico I can get on board with, a low cost addition who offers genuine competition/different options. A free transfer experienced centre half and keeper are no brainers. A signing like Walker i'm less keen on, I think it's a position we should be looking to strengthen in and the idea of just muddling along for about the 6th or 7th season running doesn't appeal to me at all. Same with some of the attacking positions. I'm fine with us padding out the squad as long as we also identify proper difference makers who take us forward in both the short and long term.

Absolutely, it will be a balance of different signings. Hopefully some will be about immediate improvement, I don't think we have a budget for all of them to be so, especially with the huge numbers leaving to be replaced

 

[matty1878]

Key point here is we also dont pay loan players wages directly, ( @Kevsleftpeg perhaps something to be aware of )

We would pay a fee to City and they would continue paying his wages.

we aren’t getting grealish

 

[evertondotcom]

I think Alcaraz fee falls into 2024-25 (or half of it anyway) because we triggered a deal that was agreed in 24/25, so £6.3m per year over 2 years.

I don’t believe that to be true mate.

 

[ForeverEverton]

Those numbers of course are pre-deductions. Hard to tell where we are in 2025/26 though its clear we need mass lucrative revenue streams...none of which seem on the horizon.

I think revenues will jump significantly, I did write a post earlier.... As I also said in that post I think this busts the £200m revenue for the 1st time in our history.

 

[milks]

Why wouldnt he be after a payday at 32 in what is potentially his last contract? When it comes to footballers IMO 99% of them are always after a payday.

He's spent his career playing in Argentina, Holland and for Lyon. Not at a rich club paying big wages. He'll have maybe maxed out at circa £50k p/w salary at his peak.

At 32 and being out of contract there won't be a long list of clubs suddenly looking to pay him the highest salary of his career.

 

[Makis]

I think revenues will jump significantly, I did write a post earlier....

It will be over 50 million and less than 100, probably somewhere in the middle. Couple of guesses but it at 70 million.

 

[buskwhi2]

Key point here is we also dont pay loan players wages directly, ( @Kevsleftpeg perhaps something to be aware of )

We would pay a fee to City and they would continue paying his wages.

Where are you getting this from?

Loan deals can be done in various ways.

Some involve paying full wages and a loan fee.
Others no wages and a loan fee.
Others will involve a % of wages and a loan fee.
Others will involve a % of wages and no loan fee.

There’s no hard and fast rule and the clubs will negotiate whatever works

 

[ForeverEverton]

I think that's fantasy to be honest, we are losing about 15 players or whatever, if you think each and every signing will be a every week starter and improvement on what's left you need to temper those expectations.

I hope we sign 2 or 3 that improve us, a couple for the future but after that there will be some squad fillers for sure

We aren`t losing 15 players... the squad as it stands now is 13 whilst the club have not announced what is happening to Keane, Gueye and Coleman.

So the squad is anywhere between 13 and 16, you can only register 25 players in the PL squad unless under 21.

I`ve not included Harrison Armstrong or any U21 players in that 13-16... I think we will only bring in 6 or 7, I think signing players with potential is better than mid 30 year olds, as previously stated because they will be much cheaper in wages and potential to turn a profit.

Signing older players is just a PSR drain... you will never get away from PSR if you continue signing older players.

 

[ForeverEverton]

It will be over 50 million and less than 100, probably somewhere in the middle. Couple of guesses but it at 70 million.

Yeah, I think we will end up around £250m turnover which takes us to the same bracket as Villa currently and then we need to chase down the likes of Newcastle and the SLY 6... but success on the pitch will be the big factor beyond the stadium and new ownership uplift.