2024/25 David Moyes

[BigBeto1]

Can someone please provide a way to look a the table since Moyes took over, I’m sure there is a Twitter post or something somewhere

 

[TheBigIguana]

I didn't rate his starting 11 today but I'd rather get proven wrong by the manager when it results in a win.

How can you argue his performance the past few months has been a negative?

He's made us extremely hard to beat and with a bit more luck and better refereeing we'd have earned even more points.

He's not faultless and he makes some frustrating decisions but overall Moyes has shown he is the best man for the job in the short to medium term at least. He will have us back in the top 10 within a season or 2 and maybe even back in Europe. Wouldn't be surprised if we won a Conference League under him. Then there will be Evertonians saying we are celebrating failure cause it's not winning the League as if the last 40 years haven't happened.

Well the starting XI got completely played off the park for 60 minutes, which was predictable, but the luckiest goal we've scored all year ensured that the better players he refuses to start and/or play in their correct positions could still win the game. So no he didn't prove anyone wrong he got really lucky.

This is the moment to think about the longer term. New owners, new decision makers, a whole bunch of new players by necessity. This is the moment to decide who is manager in a longer term vision? This is exactly when we should not care about who is best for the short to medium term.

To me his performance has been exactly what it should be for this squad. Dyche had everyone believing it was crap to hide that he's the one who is actually crap. But it is a mid table outfit that he has mid table. He's done fine. It's about what we want to be in 3 to 5 years now. This is the reboot.

 

[Neiler]

I think we were lucky, in that Pickford made some big saves and we got a deflected equaliser on the most perfect moment. It's a different game we make HT one down. We regrouped and came out with a plan whilst Fulham seemed to wilt and dither a little. Once the game wore on and we added fresh legs suddenly we had more purpose, and Keane gambled on the cross. This is where we've been undone in recent weeks, we've made chances but no one has attacked the space or took a chance on the back post. We started moving the ball around and they couldn't keep up and we penned em back in their half, suddenly their every break dried up. Rode our luck, sneaked an equaliser, then capitalised. Great away day outing.

We can't set the league record for draws now.

That the game though mate, it’s a fine balance, there were games were we were the better team under Dyche last and earlier this year - but other teams took their chances and changed the momentum of the game and got a result - Fulham ironically have done it to us in recent seasons.

We rode our luck at times today, but why not we have Englands best keeper and our defence is one of the best in the Division - the home team, will always have to take the initiative.

What I saw today was standards - we came from behind, players looked motivated and their was a game plan, we relied on quality - whether it be good strikes - good finishing as opposed to playing %s. The quality came from Charley and Beto.

What I liked is we have a standard - drop below that and it won’t be tolerated (see Patterson from last week), all the players were on point and motivated - remember what it has been like in recent seasons going a goal behind, no one wilted today.

What I also really liked and like is we are using the entire squad to influence games - I think thats gone unacknowledged recently in the influence it’s having and is week on week!

We’ve only been beaten by some very good teams since Moyes came in, but if we are competing and beating Forest down to Fulham with this squad we’ve a good foundation to build off with what Moyes has instilled thus far.

 

[blulouie]

Liked the performance today, Fulham away in early May with nothing to play for is a face ache of a fixture.

Really good performance, all the players motivated and on point - that’s the sign of a good manager.

Not all was good
First half was grim mate.

Great in the 2nd half and 3 well deserved points.

 

[Drico]

It's important we win next week now. For historical reasons - but also for the manager to go into the summer on something of a high. I know there is a final game, but beat Southampton and he can be very satisfied with his impact this season - and people can genuinely get behind him over the summer.

 

[TheBigIguana]

That the game though mate, it’s a fine balance, there were games were we the better team under Dyche last and earlier this year - but other teams took their chances and changed the momentum of the game and got a result - Fulham ironically have done but to us in recent seasons.

We rode our luck at times today, but why not we have Englands best keeper and our defence is one of the best in the Division, the home team, will always have to take their chances initiative.

What I saw today was standards - we came from behind, players looked motivated and their was @ game plan, we relied on quality - whether it be good strikes - good finishing as opposed to playing %s. The quality came from Charley and Beto.

What I liked is we have a standard - drop below that and it won’t be tolerated (see Patterson from last week), all the players were on point and motivated - remember what has been like in recent seasons going a goal behind, no one wilted today.

What I also really liked and like is we are using the entire s1uas to influence games - I think that gone un acknowledged recently in the influence it’s having and is week in week!

We’ve only been beaten by some very god teams, but if we are competing and beating Forest down to Fulham with this squad we’ve a good foundation to build off with what Moyes has instilled thus far.

When you play a dysfunctional team for 60 minutes and come out of it 1-1 in the manner we did today you've gotten luckier than the average breaks of good fortune. It's one thing to credit the manager for making the changes to fix it, but that's harder for me to do when the initial lineups issues are entirely predictable.

It's not that Moyes isn't doing well, it's the lack of foresight that makes it hard for me to believe he's the person we want to have the keys to the kingdom as we enter this new era.

 

[SJB]

Can someone please provide a way to look a the table since Moyes took over, I’m sure there is a Twitter post or something somewhere

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

I think the first half of most matches are a struggle or dross for us because of who Moyes chooses to start. We have the makings of a club that should start better. Put McNeil on left, Alcaraz and Ndiaye in the middle. Or Beto and one or the other. Or drop Alcaraz to midfield. The combo that drags us down is players out of their natural positions or relying on Doucoure and Harrison. Try Tim. Or start Youssef at right wing.

 

[Mr Mig]

Love Moyes. But on what planet does any sane Blue thinks he is the person to take us forward???????

 

[TheBigIguana]

I think the first half of most matches are a struggle or dross for us because of who Moyes chooses to start. We have the makings of a club that should start better. Put McNeil on left, Alcaraz and Ndiaye in the middle. Or Beto and one or the other. Or drop Alcaraz to midfield. The combo that drags us down is players out of their natural positions or relying on Doucoure and Harrison. Try Tim. Or start Youssef at right wing.

Put McNeil on the right. The only position McNeil should play on the left is left back.

 

[Daytripper]

Love Moyes. But on what planet does any sane Blue thinks he is the person to take us forward???????

The narrative/strategy will be “stability” “Rome wasnt built in a day” etc for the next year or two, so that suits him. Like last time he was here , anything beyond that such as Europe is a bonus.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Arrogant team selection that was today.

And I'm not buying the O'Brien injury either.

This feller's playing games.

Seems he knows what he's doing mate.

 

[banno]

Well the starting XI got completely played off the park for 60 minutes, which was predictable, but the luckiest goal we've scored all year ensured that the better players he refuses to start and/or play in their correct positions could still win the game. So no he didn't prove anyone wrong he got really lucky.

This is the moment to think about the longer term. New owners, new decision makers, a whole bunch of new players by necessity. This is the moment to decide who is manager in a longer term vision? This is exactly when we should not care about who is best for the short to medium term.

To me his performance has been exactly what it should be for this squad. Dyche had everyone believing it was crap to hide that he's the one who is actually crap. But it is a mid table outfit that he has mid table. He's done fine. It's about what we want to be in 3 to 5 years now. This is the reboot.

Bit of an exaggeration and a bed sheet reaction. To Everton the match is unimportant, we have experimented yet again to give Moyes the answers to players futures. Moyes is setting up his decisions for the next season. I expect him to go into the summer with a clear view on how to take us forward and not to be in the position that we have been in the last several seasons. Great job that Moyes has done will only be judged as of next season. 4 or 5 players missing replaced by his choices will be either his death knell or the return of Moysiah. 8th to 12th next season in our circumstances will be a massive jump and anything above will be wonderful. Another relegation scrap with an input of 5 players or more will be deemed as failure

 

[MACCA75]

The narrative/strategy will be “stability” “Rome wasnt built in a day” etc for the next year or two, so that suits him. Like last time he was here , anything beyond that such as Europe is a bonus.

He did a very good job when he was last here given the budget though.

 

[banno]

Love Moyes. But on what planet does any sane Blue thinks he is the person to take us forward???????

He has already taken us forward ain't he?