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Defense is ok now but a midfield with Iwobi and Davies.... LOL
Well that's it then get rid.
Absolutely no doubt Paul.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Are we still doing the Iwobi being crap thing?
IrishBlue2022
Player Valuation: £15m
Yep the doom and gloom in here is on another level with some people. We are in a relegation battle already while the Resh*te, who have only 2 points more than us are title challengers.
I swear some in our fanbase thrive on doomongering.
Oh i think we understand the reasons mate, im very clear on them while i dont agree with some of your analysis above particularly around some of the players i raised in primary post - i think we can both agree we have been a financial mess - largely of our own making, my position it isnt the signings - its te cost they created which are reoccurring as opposed to being dealt with, by just selling players. We could easily sell Richarlison and Gordon this year for £100 mill and still £80 mill this year - just where we are now. So the same problems will reoccur next year.
The analogy is a simple one, lets say the patient is dealing with the the threat of survival, do you treat aggressively minmising their quality of life or do you give them a choice to go out and enjoy a quality of life and try and take opportunity where they can find it. This time next year the experimental treatment may have a greater % or working - i.e. selling Gordon.
Ultimately i see if we continue down this course of treatment i see a terminal decline. I mean given where we finished last season, we have just sold Richalrision - haven't replaced him, we are maybe going to sell Gordon - with two weeks to go in the window and weve lost DCL hopefully only until Oct - again what do people expect to happen?
I keep hearing "reinvesting wisely" - thats just a buzz word - there are two weeks left in the window from today, the market is at its end, there is a liited stock of players now and teams know we have 45 mill to invest - they will screw us. Your looking at swapping a Che Adams and a french striker for Gordon, wich makes me ill. We have to build a whole new forward line (probably 3 players) out of 45 mill - 45 mill wont get you a decent inside forward or striker tyo be compatible with the quality we have taken out of the team. We dont look like scoring if we are playing a game for a year.
All the while people are clapping away saying what great business we have done, we have lost every ounce of any creativity, guile or threat we had in the last three windows and are continuing to do it - its bananas - we cant score. What are people expecting to happen?
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40 mil pounds wow...Chelsea must be mad
Stuartisitc1878
Player Valuation: £25m
Our board are easily the worst in the PremilerLeague. Our club, for one of it's size is probably one of the worst run clubs in Europe . They get almost everything wrong, they can't even handle a kit launch without screwing up and that's why (and I can't believe I'm sort of defending them here) I just don't believe they would force a player, against his will to pretend to want to leave just so they don't get the flack. That takes a degree of planning and forward thinking that they have been proven to be incapable of... especially in the age of social media where everyone knows everything.
I have no idea whether Gordon wants to stay or go, personally I don't care. He's part of a team that has consistently under performed the last 3 seasons and I've said repeatably that'd sell any one of our players if a proper offer came in.
I'd imagine if given the choice between CL footie and another season fighting for an optimistic mid-table finish he'd choose Champions League, and lets not forget this is a kid that walked into Carlo Ancelotti's office and demanded more game time so he clearly believes in his ability and I'm sure he'll believe he can force his way into Chelsea's team.
From the clubs point of view, if we are offered 50 million for an academy product (who lets be brutally honest, works hard but with very little end product. I would certainly question the club were we bidding £50m for him) then it's going to be tempting. That's pure profit and it could revamp our incredibly goal shy front line. Of course the concern, to go back to my earlier point about the club being poorly run - just because we suddenly have 50m doesn't mean we'll have any idea how to spend it wisely. Moshiri will probably spuff it all on El Ghazi.
If the club reject the offer and he's told to stay then great, we keep a young talent with potential and we only need to replace 2 attackers rather than 3. If he goes, thanks for the money... we move on, but whatever happens, needs to happen asap.
I have no idea whether Gordon wants to stay or go, personally I don't care. He's part of a team that has consistently under performed the last 3 seasons and I've said repeatably that'd sell any one of our players if a proper offer came in.
I'd imagine if given the choice between CL footie and another season fighting for an optimistic mid-table finish he'd choose Champions League, and lets not forget this is a kid that walked into Carlo Ancelotti's office and demanded more game time so he clearly believes in his ability and I'm sure he'll believe he can force his way into Chelsea's team.
From the clubs point of view, if we are offered 50 million for an academy product (who lets be brutally honest, works hard but with very little end product. I would certainly question the club were we bidding £50m for him) then it's going to be tempting. That's pure profit and it could revamp our incredibly goal shy front line. Of course the concern, to go back to my earlier point about the club being poorly run - just because we suddenly have 50m doesn't mean we'll have any idea how to spend it wisely. Moshiri will probably spuff it all on El Ghazi.
If the club reject the offer and he's told to stay then great, we keep a young talent with potential and we only need to replace 2 attackers rather than 3. If he goes, thanks for the money... we move on, but whatever happens, needs to happen asap.
It’s not based on losing the first two, it’s based on barely staying up last year, losing Richy’s goals with no replacement and now an injured Dom, who can’t seem to stay healthy. I see more fight in Fulham, Forest and Leeds at this point. Battle on.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
You know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
Its big picture stuff mate, look at who we've sold we've asset stripped the squad bare of any guile creativity and threat.
We've lost Bernard, Rodriguiz, Digne, Gylfi, Richarlison and maybe Gordon - while DCL has been cocked for a calendar year.
Given how we finished last season - we couldnt score - we needed to add to what we had not sell more of it - its bananas.
I honestly dont know how people can think selling Gordon improves our situation at all systemically, we should be up in arms.
We're actually clapping our own demise.
We're still better than Man U though.
Stand a and applauds - this is it!
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