BNJ1878
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But that's the thing.
This balloon is suggesting the QR code on the digital ticket IS the artwork.
If anybody can explain that to me in a clear way I'll be very grateful.
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This balloon is suggesting the QR code on the digital ticket IS the artwork.
If anybody can explain that to me in a clear way I'll be very grateful.
Lobster Johnson
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Incidentally, I went out to eat last night, with a physical menu. I took the train to work this morning with a chip card as my ticket. I don't fly.
I'm not seeing it.
DuuuncanHadaPigeon
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I am struggling to understand his point.
I get why using NFTs as a ticketing system could be a good idea, but it works fine right now doesn't it, we don't need NFTs to make plane tickets work.
The funny thing is, you don't actually own the artwork, you own a digital receipt, stored on the blockchain. All you can do with that receipt is trade it, I can just copy the image and use it myself.
Lobster Johnson
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Also, the only purpose of NFTs is to sell crypto. This is a solution looking for a problem.
BNJ1878
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Exactly, my mate who says an NFT with a purpose is worth something, but surely that's just a digital ticket/membership anyway?
No need to prop up the rest of the circus with a little bit of legitimacy.
This fella saying that an airline ticket QR code can become collectable is a stretch. It's less collectable than Panini stickers.
DuuuncanHadaPigeon
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Yes I agree, plane tickets becoming collectibles is a bit absurd.
If concert tickets started using NFTs then I could see the value in say, your ticket(NFT) to see a huge band being worth something in the future, like if you had a beatles stub from one of their early gigs, that would be worth a lot...
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Lobster Johnson
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And this is, once again, the entire philosophy behind everything crypto/blockchain/NFT space... The only value anything has is monetary. Your memories etc are only valuable if they have an investment value.
DuuuncanHadaPigeon
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Not really. If the artist you really love decides I am only going to sell tickets via NFTs, will you just not go? Odds are you will still buy a 'ticket' because you love the artist.
You can keep the 'ticket' as a memory or you can sell it, just like any other physical ticket.
Lobster Johnson
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I'm not buying crypto to buy a ticket to a show. I'm not sure how I'd feel about an artist putting that kind of barrier to entry up. Also, the biggest shows I go to are about 500 people (and normally half of that or smaller), the tours are normally cash driven. Vans need filled with petrol, food needs to be bought, hotels/strings/local sound guys need to be paid for. I'm not sure how that business model would play out if it's in an unstable crypto currency and the band need to pay their rent.
DuuuncanHadaPigeon
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I think you are getting a bit confused with volatile crypto currencies like BTC and an NFT.
Lets say I buy a ticket for a gig from ticketmaster. I get an eticket which is just a QR code. It would not be too difficult for ticketmaster to set up an NFT system on their backend. Your eticket is now an NFT, nothing has changed from the user point of view and the artist still gets their cash money for ticket sales. Or even better an independent platform could be set up that takes less fees than ticketmaster and gives more money to the artist.
The only difference is now your eticket has a receipt on the blockchain that in the future may or may not have value, ordinarily your eticket would have no value after the gig...
I am not some advocate of NFTs by the way, I couldn't care less how you get your music ticket, but I do think this is how it is trending, certainly for larger artists who can draw massive crowds. For the smaller gigs like you said, I agree cash is king and NFTs would be pretty useless.
The Gueye Science
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Whilst this may appear to be no more than an empty packet of crisps thrown into the canal, there is also a bit of computer code on a server somewhere which may or may not increase in value, whereas an ordinary empty packet of crisps thrown into the canal is just that, an empty packet of crisps thrown into the canal.
Lobster Johnson
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If I look to, for example, Oasis Knebworth ticket stubs on E bay, I can find one for £40.
I Know you're not arguing that this is the only use case, but for me that seems really niche and not a profitable market. If you're only targeting ticket collectors for shows that tens of thousands of people were at, I'm not sure it justifies the hassle for the artist to make 2% of £40.
The Gueye Science
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