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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


catcherintherye said:
Let me ask you, do you, or anyone else think it's in any way a surprise that there were hooliganism and difficulties with Rangers and Liverpool this year? Is anyone in any way surprised? And if so, why not.
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No, I agree that both fanbases have form.

But also think that the reputations can lead to actions that can backfire and make the situation worse rather than better - queuing cheek by jowl for hours in hot temperatures with no access to water rarely improves anyones temper or behavior.
 

joey_macmo said:
People were on edge because the night before a load of blue had been ambushed outside a bar and done in.

On the day Plain clothed police predominantly in black went in to the square and grabbed a lad and started dragging him away, problem was that they had no ID’ing features on them nor did they explain they were police.

Some blues thought it was similar to the night before and started having a go back.

The police then got out their red bands (which afaik they’re meant to wear at all times) after they were being attacked and called for back up.

Then the tear gas came to disperse the evertonians so they could get to the plain clothed fellas who were huddled in a doorway.
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My memory was they looked like skin head ultras the red arm bands to suggest they was police made them look like fascists, French police for you I suppose.
One thing I have completely forgotten is national and local media backing Everton fans, strangely enough I seem to remember we got slaughtered by the media and the liverpool echo splashed a picture of chaos and danger, it was that dangerous amongst the death and carnage in the picture was an Everton fan eating a cheese sandwich.
 

dholliday said:
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good post, you touch upon the collective responsibility of identity...this is a concept famously frowned upon when suggested of other groups of folk who may have an overly-represented trouble-making percentage (on tip-toes here!).

We Germans battled with same for decades post-nazism. Still battling it now: do we engage and thus accept the collective responsibility of identity or do we ignore and say nowt to do with me?

No easy answers.

Someone should make that thread if they're feeling brave :cheers:



ps - also curious about why you always format your posts the way you do...superstition?
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its how he writes on the wall
 

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