Diving

Do we do it too much?

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Don't mind it if there is contact the blatant no contact ones are embarrassing
I think we are one of the only clubs that got fined for it Niasse at Palace away ?
it was going on at practically every game at Liverpool and Utd nothing was done about it
 

chrismpw said:
I get that. If the entertainment is ever to be a sport again this rubbish needs stamping out, along with the pundits that try to justify or normalise it. Then I'd vaporise any fans who really should know better!
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Cheating has been a part of football for decades. Whether it's Kenny Burns going over the top of a ball into someone's shins back in the 70s or Anthony Gordon picking up a soft foul. I wouldn't agree that one is of a more legitimate sporting nature.

Football has always had winners who break the rules in order to gain an advantage regardless of the decade.
 
The one yesterday against united, I thought was a pen, the defender, Telles I think, ran into the back of Gordon. As soon as telles feels the contact he puts his arms in the air in the classic “never touched him ref” pose. Gordon tried to stay in his feet and went over anyway, so it looked like a dive. If he’d have just gone down, I think we would have had a pen. When I saw it in slow mo I thought VAR would have given it. But it’s us, so I guess not.
 

OneTrueLegend said:
The one yesterday against united, I thought was a pen, the defender, Telles I think, ran into the back of Gordon. As soon as telles feels the contact he puts his arms in the air in the classic “never touched him ref” pose. Gordon tried to stay in his feet and went over anyway, so it looked like a dive. If he’d have just gone down, I think we would have had a pen. When I saw it in slow mo I thought VAR would have given it. But it’s us, so I guess not.
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Was it VARd? Nothing appeared on the big screen. Play just went on. Bemused every time!
 
Don't think it was a dive yesterday. Sprinting full pelt around someone, so not in a straight line, any sort of clip will knock you off balance.

I don't think it was intentional, but there was contact, and Gordon would have won the ball, so regardless of intent or accidental, it's a foul.

If not, then it's a booking for Gordon. Which is wasn't. So it's poor reffing than anything else.
 
SJB said:
I remember fans moaning that we were too nice to engage in the dark arts of the game in the past. Unfortunately for us, the refs seem to notice Gordon is diving most of the time but he does buy the odd cheap free kick and he'll win us a few penalties.
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But if the refs are noticing him diving he should be getting booked for it. So by not booking him, they are acknowledging there was contact.
 

ClausThomsen said:
Cheating has been a part of football for decades. Whether it's Kenny Burns going over the top of a ball into someone's shins back in the 70s or Anthony Gordon picking up a soft foul. I wouldn't agree that one is of a more legitimate sporting nature.

Football has always had winners who break the rules in order to gain an advantage regardless of the decade.
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Just because its happened for decades does not make it right. So has murder and so have fraudulent thieving tories.

But I disagree - teams never WIN by cheating. They cheat. They're not winners. Nobody won the last euros competition in my eyes. The team in blue were cheats.
 

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