What happens to Lampard...

Should Lampard be sacked if we lose to Leicester & RS

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 7.0%

  • No

    Votes: 53 93.0%
  • Total voters
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overkill said:
We have the 7th highest wage bill in the division, serveral players who will still be on high wages with no relegation or release clause.

Were making massive losses now while in premier League, it will be worse in championship.

It's very optimistic/naive to not see it as a possibility, a poorly run club having to deal with mass loss of income when it was.making huge losses anyway.
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We shifted high wages last summer and will do again, maybe not all of them,We will sell players on high wages and have 4 out of contract ,maybe some will be loaned and we pay some of the wages? Take Mina in 120k with a year left. I’d imagine Everton would let him go for free if they have to, just to shift his wages

Also like I said we’re under the threshold. And I know the championship rules are tighter, but they won’t come into the play as soon as we go down, surely they give you a season or two to get your house in order.

Worst case scenario we raise 120mil from sales and drop the wage bill by 30/40mil. If we have to go with the players we have. Plus under 23’s and a few loans and frees, so be it.
 

Martin Alvito said:
Chelsea has much higher turnover and a vastly larger asset base due to the quality of the player contracts they hold. They have intrinsic value above and beyond the prestige of owning a club that regularly banks major trophies. We have none of these things, a cash bleed that is vastly larger relative to turnover/asset base, and the threat of having turnover drop by 40-50% (more or less doubling the cash bleed) in the event of relegation.

These are not comparable situations, and Chelsea's ability to find suitors in no way implies that we can find one should we be relegated.
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You obviously know more about the Chelsea situation than me, but If they have loads of people interested, according to journalists and it’s going to cost 4/5 billion.

You think Everton will struggle to sell for a 10th of that and fund the rest of the ground. According to John Blain, there’s plenty of people out there who would buy Everton tomorrow
 
overkill said:
The problem is more we have to stop choosing the wrong/Bad Managers.
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Agreed.
But i don’t think getting rid of frank is the answer. I don’t think Houdini gets us out of this mess.
Whatever happens now I would like to see stability and the management team to oversee a complete overhaul which will definitely need to happen anyway if relegation happens.
 
Whatever the outcome of this season, the club has to have a very hard reset. A massive clearoutfrom the very top to the very bottom, those not pulling their weight or not wanting to, go, and quickly.
No one should be secure, because the existence of the club takes precedence over the egos of its inhabitants.
Changing manager now does nothing but pour fuel on the fire. And it gives the board another opportunity to balls up and hide behind it.
 

While I would like Frank to stay if we survived, because I think he's a decent manager, he has to go if we lose to United. 9 games, we need at least one point a game to be safe. Not a huge ask, but that's the minimum from every game now.

So he has to go, because we prob have one last shot at getting around 35 points, and itd be absolutely pointless to sack him two or three games later, especially with difficult games coming up.
 
i didn't agree with his appointment, but it would be ridiculous to sack him. i'm still deluded enough to think that we won't get relegated. let's give him next season at least, regardless of what division we end up in.
 
Martin Alvito said:
Chelsea has much higher turnover and a vastly larger asset base due to the quality of the player contracts they hold. They have intrinsic value above and beyond the prestige of owning a club that regularly banks major trophies. We have none of these things, a cash bleed that is vastly larger relative to turnover/asset base, and the threat of having turnover drop by 40-50% (more or less doubling the cash bleed) in the event of relegation.

These are not comparable situations, and Chelsea's ability to find suitors in no way implies that we can find one should we be relegated.
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The issue with buying us now is an owner has to finance the new stadium. It's too far down the line now for them to kick it into the long grass and concentrate on sorting out the team/stabilising the finances. Therefore Moshiri will remain until the stadium is completed at least.
 
arbok said:
While I would like Frank to stay if we survived, because I think he's a decent manager, he has to go if we lose to United. 9 games, we need at least one point a game to be safe. Not a huge ask, but that's the minimum from every game now.

So he has to go, because we prob have one last shot at getting around 35 points, and itd be absolutely pointless to sack him two or three games later, especially with difficult games coming up.
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Obvious question, for who? Who comes in? Who would want to?
The anti relegation managers are not the ones to rebuild, and just another sticking plaster doesn't help.
 

Get rid.

Agree with every argument to keep him under normal conditions. If he’d come in and lost nearly every game and we weren’t in trouble? Yes, give him 3 windows to build his team, to do it his way.

under the conditions that we are very very close to being relegated? We don’t have that luxury, we’ve reached desperation time, we have nothing to lose by sacking him and possibly lots to gain.
 
Heart says keep him, I think he is likeable and his reputation and Chelsea links looked good for recruitment. But that falls apart if we go down.

Head says we must sack him if we do not win (draw is useless) tomorrow. Relegation is not some sun-lit uplands, it will destroy us as we’ll sell any good players simply to avoid points deductions. We’ll still have over paid tosh and we are not bouncing up next season. We’d be lucky to finish mid table (QPR are 9th). Frank has us too open, bring in someone more defensive minded. If that is Sam, and he keeps us up, it will be the best decision we ever made. Looking at the poll it’s not popular, but sometimes the really important choices are contentious. We can’t go down, we must not go down, Frank has to go if we don’t win tomorrow. Sorry, but it’s not personal it’s business, and our business must be in the Premier League next season.
 
Bigduke1234 said:
Heart says keep him, I think he is likeable and his reputation and Chelsea links looked good for recruitment. But that falls apart if we go down.

Head says we must sack him if we do not win (draw is useless) tomorrow. Relegation is not some sun-lit uplands, it will destroy us as we’ll sell any good players simply to avoid points deductions. We’ll still have over paid tosh and we are not bouncing up next season. We’d be lucky to finish mid table (QPR are 9th). Frank has us too open, bring in someone more defensive minded. If that is Sam, and he keeps us up, it will be the best decision we ever made. Looking at the poll it’s not popular, but sometimes the really important choices are contentious. We can’t go down, we must not go down, Frank has to go if we don’t win tomorrow. Sorry, but it’s not personal it’s business, and our business must be in the Premier League next season.
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It’s completely insane to bring in a third manager in a season. We’re a basket case and deserve everything that’s coming.
 

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