What happens to Lampard...

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

you sure do lol

Joking aside mate, I actually thought this was a reasonable one to pose. There's a lot of speculation (see the Sky report) doing the rounds. We're in the crap, no doubt about it but I am not convinced firing Lampard solves much. Judging by the poll, most agree.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Won’t pull the plug with the ground the way it is also you can get another buyer. Look at Chelsea. Apparently they wouldn’t be able to pay players and staff and wouldn’t be able to sell tickets.

But still going and selling tickets as the premier league have given them time to get a buyer, surely that would be the same With us or any other club

Chelsea has much higher turnover and a vastly larger asset base due to the quality of the player contracts they hold. They have intrinsic value above and beyond the prestige of owning a club that regularly banks major trophies. We have none of these things, a cash bleed that is vastly larger relative to turnover/asset base, and the threat of having turnover drop by 40-50% (more or less doubling the cash bleed) in the event of relegation.

These are not comparable situations, and Chelsea's ability to find suitors in no way implies that we can find one should we be relegated.

 

[overkill]

Still didn’t answer how we go into administration.

I’d say it’s nothing like Leeds, for a kick off there was no ffp or profit and sustainability rules around 20yrs ago, so Leeds must have been in a hell of a hole.

If there was no ffp now, the accounts last week, wouldn’t have been a big story, stop believing journalists scaremongering. And listen to journalists who have the club at heart, who will tell we’re actually under the threshold.

We have the 7th highest wage bill in the division, serveral players who will still be on high wages with no relegation or release clause.

Were making massive losses now while in premier League, it will be worse in championship.

It's very optimistic/naive to not see it as a possibility, a poorly run club having to deal with mass loss of income when it was.making huge losses anyway.

 

[gonetomorrow]

Perhaps the squad could form themselves into an anarcho-syndicalist cooperative and reach decisions democratically.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Perhaps the squad could form themselves into an anarcho-syndicalist cooperative and reach decisions democratically.

They would just shout at one another that they are being oppressed.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Probably because we're on the verge of relegation ultimately.

Benitez still had 20+ games to turn things around - If we lose saturday we could be in the bottom 3 with only 8 games left which includes Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal & Leicester (2) 3 of those being away ties.

We wont stay up if Lampard can't dig out results look at Wigan under Martinez. We've shipped 9 goals in 3 games to Burnley, Crystal Palace and West Ham and cant score from open play.

I don't want to see another manager sacked but I think the board will be accepting relegashun if they don't do one last roll of the dice and hope for a new manager bounce ala Leeds/someone who can tighten us up.

I'm honestly starting to think you are no more than a wind-up merchant.

Benitez played negative football and supposedly knew how to organise a defence - and we kept losing. Benitez was wanted out by the majority of fans because he was a poor manager with no recent track record of success, whose entire legend is really built on a couple of spawny cup wins with Liverpool nearly 20 years ago. He got rid of all our creativity without replacing it because 'he always knows best'. He was determined to bring in the likes of Rondon, Longstaff and McNeil. Utter terrible footballers. Benitez was effectively going to be the man to complete the seeming ambition of this board to destroy the club.

If we sack Lampard now (and yes, he has made a load of mistakes too) it would be letting the board off the hook again. Who would we bring in to keep us up? Who is available now that wasn’t when we appointed Lampard? Because it seems to me, we had to choose between Pereira, Lampard, Ferguson or Rooney. Again, because our board are incapable of effective decision-making. They even cost us by taking so long to appoint Lampard. Giving him 24 hours to get some transfers in, leaving us incredibly short. Who's to say that if he had longer DVDB and Dele Alli wouldn't look like better signings because we were also able to secure a defender and a defensive midfielder too?

There is no one who will come in at this stage and keep us up. Either Lampard squeezes something out of this useless bunch, or he doesn't. But if someone else comes in, there is no magic man to keep us up and it also gives the players the excuse again to down tools and not accept responsibility.

The attribution of fault goes in this order:
1) The board
2) Benitez
3) The players
4) Lampard

So he is the least of our problems.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I'm honestly starting to think you are no more than a wind-up merchant.

Benitez played negative football and supposedly knew how to organise a defence - and we kept losing. Benitez was wanted out by the majority of fans because he was a poor manager with no recent track record of success, whose entire legend is really built on a couple of spawny cup wins with Liverpool nearly 20 years ago. He got rid of all our creativity without replacing it because 'he always knows best'. He was determined to bring in the likes of Rondon, Longstaff and McNeil. Utter terrible footballers. Benitez was effectively going to be the man to complete the seeming ambition of this board to destroy the club.

If we sack Lampard now (and yes, he has made a load of mistakes too) it would be letting the board off the hook again. Who would we bring in to keep us up? Who is available now that wasn’t when we appointed Lampard? Because it seems to me, we had to choose between Pereira, Lampard, Ferguson or Rooney. Again, because our board are incapable of effective decision-making. They even cost us by taking so long to appoint Lampard. Giving him 24 hours to get some transfers in, leaving us incredibly short. Who's to say that if he had longer DVDB and Dele Alli wouldn't look like better signings because we were also able to secure a defender and a defensive midfielder too?

There is no one who will come in at this stage and keep us up. Either Lampard squeezes something out of this useless bunch, or he doesn't. But if someone else comes in, there is no magic man to keep us up and it also gives the players the excuse again to down tools and not accept responsibility.

The attribution of fault goes in this order:
1) The board
2) The players
3) Lampard

So he is the least of our problems.

Alladyce or Fonesca for me.

Even if we went down with either I would be confident in both bringing us back up. Fonesca is a better version of Silva who's just humped the Championship with a nothing Fulham side.

Lampard had a similiar strengthed Derby and finished about 6th and lost the play offs. Forget just staying up we need a sure thing to drag us back up if we do go down - what are you seeing in Lampard that makes you confident in him bringing us back next season with this squad of players?

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Alladyce or Fonesca for me.

Even if we went down with either I would be confident in both bringing us back up. Fonesca is a better version of Silva who's just humped the Championship with a nothing Fulham side.

Lampard had a similiar strengthed Derby and finished about 6th and lost the play offs. Forget just staying up we need a sure thing to drag us back up if we do go down - what are you seeing in Lampard that makes you confident in him bringing us back next season with this squad of players?

What evidence do you have that Fonseca will manage to get his style across to the players and also tighten up the defence?

Allardyce won't keep us up. This side might stay up if we keep Mina fit. That would be a requirement under Lampard too.

I think when we appointed Lampard, you are appointing someone for a building job. He could turn out to be a good manager, he might not, but you don't appoint a manager like him and then punt him after 11 or 12 games when he has inherited a total mess.

We should never have appointed Benitez and they should have punted him so much earlier to give us a fighting chance. But no, they gave him complete control of the January transfer plans. Meaning we had to leave him in post longer (even I, who was appalled by the appointment of Benitez, was thinking that we have to stick with him now we've done that). THEN punt him 2 weeks later. The lack of planning was abysmal.

We should have appointed a manager like Lampard in the summer instead of a tool like Benitez. But now we've done it, we have to stick with it. I don't think anyone will get us up from the championship, so may as well give Lampard a crack at it if he wants to remain.

 

[Dixieslaces]

I'm honestly starting to think you are no more than a wind-up merchant.

Benitez played negative football and supposedly knew how to organise a defence - and we kept losing. Benitez was wanted out by the majority of fans because he was a poor manager with no recent track record of success, whose entire legend is really built on a couple of spawny cup wins with Liverpool nearly 20 years ago. He got rid of all our creativity without replacing it because 'he always knows best'. He was determined to bring in the likes of Rondon, Longstaff and McNeil. Utter terrible footballers. Benitez was effectively going to be the man to complete the seeming ambition of this board to destroy the club.

If we sack Lampard now (and yes, he has made a load of mistakes too) it would be letting the board off the hook again. Who would we bring in to keep us up? Who is available now that wasn’t when we appointed Lampard? Because it seems to me, we had to choose between Pereira, Lampard, Ferguson or Rooney. Again, because our board are incapable of effective decision-making. They even cost us by taking so long to appoint Lampard. Giving him 24 hours to get some transfers in, leaving us incredibly short. Who's to say that if he had longer DVDB and Dele Alli wouldn't look like better signings because we were also able to secure a defender and a defensive midfielder too?

There is no one who will come in at this stage and keep us up. Either Lampard squeezes something out of this useless bunch, or he doesn't. But if someone else comes in, there is no magic man to keep us up and it also gives the players the excuse again to down tools and not accept responsibility.

The attribution of fault goes in this order:
1) The board
2) Benitez
3) The players
4) Lampard

So he is the least of our problems.

Only "starting" bless you.

 

[Walken]

Davek is proved right again.

Sooner or later this always happens

 

[Cels]

The situation with Frank Lampard and Everton is a bit like the one with Climate Change and our Planet, any action taken now would simply be a case of 'too little, too late'. The damage was done a long time ago, better to just leave him to do his job and hope for the best.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I'm honestly starting to think you are no more than a wind-up merchant.

That is one way to put it.

 

[devogue]

Allardyce in

 

[Curtis]

Alladyce or Fonesca for me.

Even if we went down with either I would be confident in both bringing us back up. Fonesca is a better version of Silva who's just humped the Championship with a nothing Fulham side.

Lampard had a similiar strengthed Derby and finished about 6th and lost the play offs. Forget just staying up we need a sure thing to drag us back up if we do go down - what are you seeing in Lampard that makes you confident in him bringing us back next season with this squad of players?

A nothing Fulham side yes compared to the premier league they're a weak side but in the championship they have one of the best squads around. When Farke was at Norwich he dominated the championship twice then would get thrashed by the premier clubs it's a different world entirely still an accomplishment to win the epl but it doesn't necessarily indicate he's guaranteed success once they get promoted.

 

[yarablue1994]

Davek is proved right again.

If you have a million takes one of them is bound to happen.