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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


Blues Harp said:
Ok, so if both the rs and City are doping, why aren't the rest of the prem teams at it as well?
Are we denied access to the "good stuff?"
Why is there not a sniff or rumour in the media of what would be a huge story?
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Don't you find it strange that both the rs and city were great for 2 seasons, then their performances dropped afterwards. Chelsea are a good side, yet they don't seem to be far fitter than other teams, like the RS and City. There have been teams with bigger squads and better players who haven't achieved what the RS did in 2020. Milner has somehow got better as he's got older and playing in a far more physically demanding league. Other quality players haven't kept that up, yet he has. Also other than Vardy, Larsson and Wright almost all world class strikers were spotted at a young age. Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona, Rooney, Drogba, Shearer, Lukaku, Bergkamp and a variety of others. Can you explain how Salah wasn't being looked at by any other top clubs, yet has become world class overnight. It's almost unheard of for a world class striker or attacker, to not be in their prime, by let's say 20. You could see Rashfords class, from the very off, even Barkley you could see his quality, same when we had Eto. Firmino was crap when he started at the RS yet suddenly became a world beater. It's almost unheard of for 2 full backs out of nowhere to become quality, yet overnight Robertson and TAA came into their side a d set the world alight. Don't you find it strange how not 1 player who has left them under I look has done anything. Look at how many of their players have asthma, you wouldn't find that many asthmatics in any other workplace. Having done numerous community programmes relating to those with physical and mental health issues, I'm aware that ashstma is rarely concentrated in certain fields, compared to type 2 diabetes, liver issues and other lifestyle issues, that are related to people's socio economic
 

JelavicBrate2 said:
Don't you find it strange that both the rs and city were great for 2 seasons, then their performances dropped afterwards. Chelsea are a good side, yet they don't seem to be far fitter than other teams, like the RS and City. There have been teams with bigger squads and better players who haven't achieved what the RS did in 2020. Milner has somehow got better as he's got older and playing in a far more physically demanding league. Other quality players haven't kept that up, yet he has. Also other than Vardy, Larsson and Wright almost all world class strikers were spotted at a young age. Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona, Rooney, Drogba, Shearer, Lukaku, Bergkamp and a variety of others. Can you explain how Salah wasn't being looked at by any other top clubs, yet has become world class overnight. It's almost unheard of for a world class striker or attacker, to not be in their prime, by let's say 20. You could see Rashfords class, from the very off, even Barkley you could see his quality, same when we had Eto. Firmino was crap when he started at the RS yet suddenly became a world beater. It's almost unheard of for 2 full backs out of nowhere to become quality, yet overnight Robertson and TAA came into their side a d set the world alight. Don't you find it strange how not 1 player who has left them under I look has done anything. Look at how many of their players have asthma, you wouldn't find that many asthmatics in any other workplace. Having done numerous community programmes relating to those with physical and mental health issues, I'm aware that ashstma is rarely concentrated in certain fields, compared to type 2 diabetes, liver issues and other lifestyle issues, that are related to people's socio economic
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Spot on all of this but you’ll get called part of the tin foil hat brigade by the same group on here who seem to love this lot.

It’s the world class striker bit that resonates the most with me. These big clubs don’t miss a single one. Not a single one. They were picking up Messi as a teenager. They paid millions for Neymar. United swooped for a teenage Rooney with a record fee. Same with Ronaldo. Haaland and Mbappe have been signed up as teenagers to top clubs already. These top clubs are constantly gambling on young prodigies across the globe, and let’s be honest how many do they miss? Barely any, and if they do they’re buying them in their early 20s for huge money.

You can even extend it to CBs. Pique was world class as a teenager, both United and Barcelona knew it. Ramos also, Varane likewise. City shelled out 50 mill for John Stones. Even all the way back to Maldini. The class was obvious.


Then you have Liverpool who somehow managed to find the only three forwards in world football all in their mid 20s who happened to just morph into not only world class players (despite never showing it anywhere before) but arguably the best forward line in world football all at the same time! What an amazing coincidence.

But then to repeat the trick with Van Dijk as well, a player in his mid 20s who had been good for Celtic and Southampton to then become, according to the media now, the best CB in the world and maybe prem history. How did all these top clubs miss these prodigies in their teenage years?

To top it all off, how amazingly convenient that all these players came along just as two world class full backs appeared over night (despite no one mentioning TAA in his academy years at all, and Robertson looking terrible for Hull)

I see Coutinho is now at Aston Villa and Wijnaldum can’t get in the PSG team. Amazing how their period of world class form occurred for the only time in their career under Klopp at Liverpool.

He’s just a doping cheat, so is Pep (seriously I’d never even heard of Dias, Rodri, Jesus, Bernardo Silva before they all turned out to be world class). How convenient that they lost Kompany Silva Aguero (genuine generational world class players) and just replaced them so easily with a few players from Benfica and Atletico and arguably got even more consistent.

One day people will look back and wonder how they got sucked in by all this. It’s almost quite disgusting to watch. They’re just trampling on years of football history like it’s nothing. 100 points, 99 and 98 points, 18 game winning streaks, 5 and 6 nil wins becoming common place. Making PL teams look like Sunday league sides. Going to European power houses and smashing them on their own turf with their B teams like it’s nothing.

It’s pornographic and not the good kind. The game is seriously wrong and these two are the rotting core of it. Doping cheats.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Spot on all of this but you’ll get called part of the tin foil hat brigade by the same group on here who seem to love this lot.

It’s the world class striker bit that resonates the most with me. These big clubs don’t miss a single one. Not a single one. They were picking up Messi as a teenager. They paid millions for Neymar. United swooped for a teenage Rooney with a record fee. Same with Ronaldo. Haaland and Mbappe have been signed up as teenagers to top clubs already. These top clubs are constantly gambling on young prodigies across the globe, and let’s be honest how many do they miss? Barely any, and if they do they’re buying them in their early 20s for huge money.

You can even extend it to CBs. Pique was world class as a teenager, both United and Barcelona knew it. Ramos also, Varane likewise. City shelled out 50 mill for John Stones. Even all the way back to Maldini. The class was obvious.


Then you have Liverpool who somehow managed to find the only three forwards in world football all in their mid 20s who happened to just morph into not only world class players (despite never showing it anywhere before) but arguably the best forward line in world football all at the same time! What an amazing coincidence.

But then to repeat the trick with Van Dijk as well, a player in his mid 20s who had been good for Celtic and Southampton to then become, according to the media now, the best CB in the world and maybe prem history. How did all these top clubs miss these prodigies in their teenage years?

To top it all off, how amazingly convenient that all these players came along just as two world class full backs appeared over night (despite no one mentioning TAA in his academy years at all, and Robertson looking terrible for Hull)

I see Coutinho is now at Aston Villa and Wijnaldum can’t get in the PSG team. Amazing how their period of world class form occurred for the only time in their career under Klopp at Liverpool.

He’s just a doping cheat, so is Pep (seriously I’d never even heard of Dias, Rodri, Jesus, Bernardo Silva before they all turned out to be world class). How convenient that they lost Kompany Silva Aguero (genuine generational world class players) and just replaced them so easily with a few players from Benfica and Atletico and arguably got even more consistent.

One day people will look back and wonder how they got sucked in by all this. It’s almost quite disgusting to watch. They’re just trampling on years of football history like it’s nothing. 100 points, 99 and 98 points, 18 game winning streaks, 5 and 6 nil wins becoming common place. Making PL teams look like Sunday league sides. Going to European power houses and smashing them on their own turf with their B teams like it’s nothing.

It’s pornographic and not the good kind. The game is seriously wrong and these two are the rotting core of it. Doping cheats.
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So answer the question why hasn't coutinho winaldum aguero or any other player come out and said anything.

Not even a Twitter story or anything in the daily Star, are the papers in on it too
 
milky said:
So answer the question why hasn't coutinho winaldum aguero or any other player come out and said anything.

Not even a Twitter story or anything in the daily Star, are the papers in on it too
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No paper would ever dare run the story. They’d be sued for libel immediately and the cost of that case (the reputational loss for a football club that size) could be miles bigger than the whole worth of the newspaper company.

You’d need a player to come out, with medical proof, be willing to admit their own guilt, probably void all NDAs and contracts they’ve signed with the club at huge financial loss to themselves. It’s not as simple as a player just rocking up after retirement and saying they cheated.

No surprise to me whatsoever though that we’re seeing more and more cardiac incidents on the pitch now. It’s not good for the players and it’s only a matter of time before the nightmare scenario everyone saw with Eriksen will be repeated again
 
Saint Domingo said:
No paper would ever dare run the story. They’d be sued for libel immediately and the cost of that case (the reputational loss for a football club that size) could be miles bigger than the whole worth of the newspaper company.

You’d need a player to come out, with medical proof, be willing to admit their own guilt, probably void all NDAs and contracts they’ve signed with the club at huge financial loss to themselves. It’s not as simple as a player just rocking up after retirement and saying they cheated.

No surprise to me whatsoever though that we’re seeing more and more cardiac incidents on the pitch now. It’s not good for the players and it’s only a matter of time before the nightmare scenario everyone saw with Eriksen will be repeated again
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Papers run anything and I do mean anything, drugged up players would be front page and a huge financial incentive for any player willing to sell their story, what about Twitter are you seriously suggesting players don't tell anyone even after leaving,

If this is a coping mechanism for their success that's fine it softens the blow I get it, but don't just make stuff up.
 

Saint Domingo said:
Spot on all of this but you’ll get called part of the tin foil hat brigade by the same group on here who seem to love this lot.

It’s the world class striker bit that resonates the most with me. These big clubs don’t miss a single one. Not a single one. They were picking up Messi as a teenager. They paid millions for Neymar. United swooped for a teenage Rooney with a record fee. Same with Ronaldo. Haaland and Mbappe have been signed up as teenagers to top clubs already. These top clubs are constantly gambling on young prodigies across the globe, and let’s be honest how many do they miss? Barely any, and if they do they’re buying them in their early 20s for huge money.

You can even extend it to CBs. Pique was world class as a teenager, both United and Barcelona knew it. Ramos also, Varane likewise. City shelled out 50 mill for John Stones. Even all the way back to Maldini. The class was obvious.


Then you have Liverpool who somehow managed to find the only three forwards in world football all in their mid 20s who happened to just morph into not only world class players (despite never showing it anywhere before) but arguably the best forward line in world football all at the same time! What an amazing coincidence.

But then to repeat the trick with Van Dijk as well, a player in his mid 20s who had been good for Celtic and Southampton to then become, according to the media now, the best CB in the world and maybe prem history. How did all these top clubs miss these prodigies in their teenage years?

To top it all off, how amazingly convenient that all these players came along just as two world class full backs appeared over night (despite no one mentioning TAA in his academy years at all, and Robertson looking terrible for Hull)

I see Coutinho is now at Aston Villa and Wijnaldum can’t get in the PSG team. Amazing how their period of world class form occurred for the only time in their career under Klopp at Liverpool.

He’s just a doping cheat, so is Pep (seriously I’d never even heard of Dias, Rodri, Jesus, Bernardo Silva before they all turned out to be world class). How convenient that they lost Kompany Silva Aguero (genuine generational world class players) and just replaced them so easily with a few players from Benfica and Atletico and arguably got even more consistent.

One day people will look back and wonder how they got sucked in by all this. It’s almost quite disgusting to watch. They’re just trampling on years of football history like it’s nothing. 100 points, 99 and 98 points, 18 game winning streaks, 5 and 6 nil wins becoming common place. Making PL teams look like Sunday league sides. Going to European power houses and smashing them on their own turf with their B teams like it’s nothing.

It’s pornographic and not the good kind. The game is seriously wrong and these two are the rotting core of it. Doping cheats.
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I detest them too.
 
Tourists or foreigners aren’t exactly embraced by our faithful. Personally, I think it’s shocking, if they wanna come to our place & spread the gospel, surely it’s a good thing?
Saint Domingo said:
Spot on all of this but you’ll get called part of the tin foil hat brigade by the same group on here who seem to love this lot.

It’s the world class striker bit that resonates the most with me. These big clubs don’t miss a single one. Not a single one. They were picking up Messi as a teenager. They paid millions for Neymar. United swooped for a teenage Rooney with a record fee. Same with Ronaldo. Haaland and Mbappe have been signed up as teenagers to top clubs already. These top clubs are constantly gambling on young prodigies across the globe, and let’s be honest how many do they miss? Barely any, and if they do they’re buying them in their early 20s for huge money.

You can even extend it to CBs. Pique was world class as a teenager, both United and Barcelona knew it. Ramos also, Varane likewise. City shelled out 50 mill for John Stones. Even all the way back to Maldini. The class was obvious.


Then you have Liverpool who somehow managed to find the only three forwards in world football all in their mid 20s who happened to just morph into not only world class players (despite never showing it anywhere before) but arguably the best forward line in world football all at the same time! What an amazing coincidence.

But then to repeat the trick with Van Dijk as well, a player in his mid 20s who had been good for Celtic and Southampton to then become, according to the media now, the best CB in the world and maybe prem history. How did all these top clubs miss these prodigies in their teenage years?

To top it all off, how amazingly convenient that all these players came along just as two world class full backs appeared over night (despite no one mentioning TAA in his academy years at all, and Robertson looking terrible for Hull)

I see Coutinho is now at Aston Villa and Wijnaldum can’t get in the PSG team. Amazing how their period of world class form occurred for the only time in their career under Klopp at Liverpool.

He’s just a doping cheat, so is Pep (seriously I’d never even heard of Dias, Rodri, Jesus, Bernardo Silva before they all turned out to be world class). How convenient that they lost Kompany Silva Aguero (genuine generational world class players) and just replaced them so easily with a few players from Benfica and Atletico and arguably got even more consistent.

One day people will look back and wonder how they got sucked in by all this. It’s almost quite disgusting to watch. They’re just trampling on years of football history like it’s nothing. 100 points, 99 and 98 points, 18 game winning streaks, 5 and 6 nil wins becoming common place. Making PL teams look like Sunday league sides. Going to European power houses and smashing them on their own turf with their B teams like it’s nothing.

It’s pornographic and not the good kind. The game is seriously wrong and these two are the rotting core of it. Doping cheats.
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One of the funniest posts I’ve ever read. I mean, do you seriously believe all that? ?
 
City.......


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