2021/22 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

[atypicalusername]

Yakubu was the last striker we had where I was confident he’d score given a chance.

He was the best 45 year old to wear the shirt in recent memory.

 

[Lanolin]

In the last 30 years, only Yakubu, Lukaku and now DCL have gone over 20 goals a season....only 3 players. Why would we not want to try everything to hang on to him?

There’s probably a decent argument that them scoring 20 goals hasn’t actually achieved us anything and so it isn’t all that important as a lone statistic. I wouldn’t be looking to sell him but Mike is right, everyone has their price. At £50m I’d be saying no. At £60m I’d be thinking about it. At £70m I’d be accepting pretty quickly. In an ideal world we’d be better than we are and in a better financial position and so I’d be rejecting all bids, but in the real world it’s a bit different.

 

[Saint Domingo]

But why if none of them are better than what we have? (And the examples you mentioned are not better. Vardy was, but we aren't signing a 34 year old on the decline to replace DCL and if we do, then it's a travesty)

I didn’t say sign Vardy, I said Leicester found Vardy back in the day, there are players out there

 

[bluestevon]

Keane is nowhere near as bad as some make out. You make him sound like he’s on a similar level to Iwobi.

Keane is a system player who also needs a very commanding (leader) type alongside him, left alone without that he just has zero confidence soon as any mistake happens.

We don't have that type of cb to 'coddle' him so honestly get rid to a team that does, we'll lose on him but plenty of low block teams would pick up him even on 80k pw, Burnley would take him back for starters as would a fair few others

 

[Bluestar]

There’s probably a decent argument that them scoring 20 goals hasn’t actually achieved us anything and so it isn’t all that important as a lone statistic. I wouldn’t be looking to sell him but Mike is right, everyone has their price. At £50m I’d be saying no. At £60m I’d be thinking about it. At £70m I’d be accepting pretty quickly. In an ideal world we’d be better than we are and in a better financial position and so I’d be rejecting all bids, but in the real world it’s a bit different.

Without DCL’s goals this season, we’re in a relegation battle. I don’t think we could replace him.

 

[bluestevon]

Always baffles me, when we have supporters trying to make a rod for our own backs by advocating creating a massive problem where one doesn't exist already, look at the squad we have two young fullbacks with nothing behind them and not knowing yet if either will come good. We have literally one top class cb whose Injury prone and coming into his last year of contract and then really two young players we 'hope' can develop, we have no DM, lack a creative cm (one we have is a loan) Our best (maybe only) cam is alli who we have no idea if he'll come good yet, our best wide players - 1 is almost certainly going this summer to PSG, the other has had one half season of good form a nice he was 19 and no idea if it'll continue, the other is an academy lad who similarly has had one good half season and we 'hope' he progresses.

So a lot of our fans look at that and think - hey let's sell our only quality center forward for 60m we'll replace him easily.

Same goes for those advocating selling Pickford btw.

Literally couldn't make this [Poor language removed] up ????

 

[Lanolin]

Without DCL’s goals this season, we’re in a relegation battle. I don’t think we could replace him.

Well we very much are in a relegation battle anyway, and he’s only scored one goal from open play so I’m not sure that’s a great point to be honest.

I know our recruitment hasn’t been great but I’d hope if we had £70m to find a replacement they’d be better than rondon so it’s also not really a fair comparison.

Look, I can’t stress enough that I wouldn’t be actively looking to sell him, and in an ideal world I’d want us to keep him. If there was no interest over £60m then I’d definitely keep him.

It does feel a bit at times that everybody moans about the squad and complains about the wage bill and being hamstrung by ffp, and then as soon as someone suggests doing something that might help change things people lose their minds over it. We can’t have it both ways.

 

[Bluestar]

Well we very much are in a relegation battle anyway, and he’s only scored one goal from open play so I’m not sure that’s a great point to be honest.

I know our recruitment hasn’t been great but I’d hope if we had £70m to find a replacement they’d be better than rondon so it’s also not really a fair comparison.

Look, I can’t stress enough that I wouldn’t be actively looking to sell him, and in an ideal world I’d want us to keep him. If there was no interest over £60m then I’d definitely keep him.

It does feel a bit at times that everybody moans about the squad and complains about the wage bill and being hamstrung by ffp, and then as soon as someone suggests doing something that might help change things people lose their minds over it. We can’t have it both ways.

He has been missing all season and we’re in a relegation battle. That is exactly my point.

 

[Rob17896]

We don’t deserve nice things at this club, when we get them we do our best to get rid.

We had Luakaku, and a lot of fans didn’t seem to want him anymore (I wasn’t a fan of his behaviour), we got rid then had the likes of Niasse, Tosun, now Rondon, and we managed to get DCL to start scoring and now a lot want him gone too. I wouldn’t trust us to get a better replacement.
I could probably say the same for Stones, Barkley too.

We could all see DCL had progressed into the 20 goal striker and then this injury which has ruined his season. DCL is still improving don't forget, still young.

 

[Lanolin]

He has been missing all season and we’re in a relegation battle. That is exactly my point.

Yes, but like I said, I’m not advocating replacing him with rondon if he goes so that’s pretty much irrelevant. It goes without saying that any argument about potentially letting him go involves spending decent money on a replacement.

 

[bluestevon]

Well we very much are in a relegation battle anyway, and he’s only scored one goal from open play so I’m not sure that’s a great point to be honest.

I know our recruitment hasn’t been great but I’d hope if we had £70m to find a replacement they’d be better than rondon so it’s also not really a fair comparison.

Look, I can’t stress enough that I wouldn’t be actively looking to sell him, and in an ideal world I’d want us to keep him. If there was no interest over £60m then I’d definitely keep him.

It does feel a bit at times that everybody moans about the squad and complains about the wage bill and being hamstrung by ffp, and then as soon as someone suggests doing something that might help change things people lose their minds over it. We can’t have it both ways.

Thing is mate DCL is right now a very very good CF with the potential to become even better in the right system with the right coaching.

Since Sharp finished I'd say we've had two in 30 years better - Rooney albeit briefly and Lukaku who we actually got by lick more than design as we wanted Ba not him in reality.

The rest have been the likes of Beattie, AJ, Dunc, Rideout, Stewart etc who pretty much where all average at best and in many cases woeful at their worst.

So ffp or not advocating selling him regardless of the fee just seems mental to me. The idea we can replace him is just not born out by reality or history.

 

[bluestevon]

Yes, but like I said, I’m not advocating replacing him with rondon if he goes so that’s pretty much irrelevant. It goes without saying that any argument about potentially letting him go involves spending decent money on a replacement.

Beattie, AJ, Tosun, the list of big money spent on strikers by us is horrendous mate

 

[bluestevon]

Yes, but like I said, I’m not advocating replacing him with rondon if he goes so that’s pretty much irrelevant. It goes without saying that any argument about potentially letting him go involves spending decent money on a replacement.

If we need to sell in order to give room and funds to bring in players Lampard wants then Richy is the one sadly that would go, he's not better than DCL up front, we have options in that wide forward position in gray and Gordon, and good quality wide players there are simply more of them around.

 

[Lanolin]

Thing is mate DCL is right now a very very good CF with the potential to become even better in the right system with the right coaching.

Since Sharp finished I'd say we've had two in 30 years better - Rooney albeit briefly and Lukaku who we actually got by lick more than design as we wanted Ba not him in reality.

The rest have been the likes of Beattie, AJ, Dunc, Rideout, Stewart etc who pretty much where all average at best and in many cases woeful at their worst.

So ffp or not advocating selling him regardless of the fee just seems mental to me. The idea we can replace him is just not born out by reality or history.

I know what you’re saying but what you’re effectively saying there is ‘we couldn’t find a good striker 30 years ago so we won’t be able to do it now’. I just don’t really agree with that premise.

Again, this isn’t me saying put him on the transfer list and sell him regardless, it’s me saying he may well want to move and there may well be interest at a decent price, and if that’s the case then I wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand. If he wants to stay and/or the bids aren’t there then that’s great.

 

[bluestevon]

You sell a player like DCL when you already have the replacement at the club IMO