F1 2021

[longers]

There is no way the appeals change the result, changing the result would make a bad situation even worse and throw the sport into absolute chaos, its just Merc saying publicly.. this was not cool and we are not happy.

 

[woomy]

Mercedes are just appealing for the sake of it. The odds of the FIA overturning when they're the ones responsible for the fix are negligible.

I'm not sure.
I think they probs think they have something tangible. You can't just make up rules with 1 1/2 laps to go in the final race.

 

[PhilM]

The only thing that will happen is Masi will step down.

Which is what we all actually expect to happen; however, it's further opening the gap between the actual rules and Liberty's desire to make it a spectacle.

Take away the result today, but we've all talked about inconsistency in terms of how the rules are applied and the danger and/or controversy it can cause.

If nothing happens to this, it ultimately means that the race director has the discretion to interpret (ignore) the rules to help facilitate a spectacle.

Isn't that bias? Or corruption? Masi: "The rule says you can't speed in the pit lane..." Team: "True, but can't we ignore that clause?"

 

[stipe]

If the FIA and Liberty Media think this decision will attract people to the sport, they are very wrong.

It made me and many people watch F1 for first time since Schumacher and Ferrari era, last decade of F1 and Mercedes domination was nothing but borefest, this year finally some excitement

 

[Toast]

Is right Paddy.

 

[Mozza1987]

Button really is stupid isn't he. Clueless.

 

[Tubey]

I'm not sure.
I think they probs think they have something tangible. You can't just make up rules with 1 1/2 laps to go in the final race.

They can, that's why they did it.

It's so obviously a fix that they're not going to correct it as it'd then be acknowledging it.

Instead, they'll ignore it and wait for it to blow over.

Trust me, I've seen this over and over again in boxing. Money talks.

 

[Runub]

Is right Paddy.

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I wonder what their liability was before making that generous gesture ?

 

[woomy]

They can, that's why they did it.

It's so obviously a fix that they're not going to correct it as it'd then be acknowledging it.

Instead, they'll ignore it and wait for it to blow over.

Trust me, I've seen this over and over again in boxing. Money talks.

Blatant fix and everyone knows it.
But if they want to correct it without acknowledging they are corrupt. Then the 5 second penalty for Verstappen for that slight overtake under SC, could be their out.
Would be a lesson to Verstappen as well. You broke the rules and it cost you your title.

 

[PhilM]

 

[Mildredblues]

Even if they appealed and won it would leave just as bad taste in the mouth. No getting out of this now, they had the chance by not letting (some) lapped cars through or let them all through and the SC goes in just before Hamilton crosses the line. They've engineered the controversial instead of keeping it just a quiet bit of moaning. Media likes.



It was taking candy from a baby. Brand new softs against 40 lap worn hards.

I agree with you on everything but I was frustrated at Lewis for not pitting earlier when he had a 16 second gap just before the crash.

 

[Runub]

They look nervous

 

[Tubey]

There is no way the appeals change the result, changing the result would make a bad situation even worse and throw the sport into absolute chaos, its just Merc saying publicly.. this was not cool and we are not happy.

That's what they're relying on with the fix.

The only way out if to change it, sack Masi and charge him with 'match fixing' or the F1 equivalent.

Because that's what he's actually done.

 

[stipe]

Blatant fix and everyone knows it.
But if they want to correct it without acknowledging they are corrupt. Then the 5 second penalty for Verstappen for that slight overtake under SC, could be their out.
Would be a lesson to Verstappen as well. You broke the rules and it cost you your title.

Meh its F1, all legendary drivers from the past had their controversies, Senna, Schumacher, thats why they were popular. People like wild guys and bad boys in every sport, not squeaky clean guys, they don't bring money in a same way.

This season was jackpot for popularity of F1, not this past 10 years of Mercedes boring us all to death

 

[john jako]

It’s not as if red bull cheated at the end. It was the stewards who cheated. Red bull going to complain they done nothing wrong.