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gwladysnight said:
That illustrates perfectly the problem at Everton zero accountability at all levels of the Club. Moshiri doesn't get called to account for bringing in a succession of managers and a DoF that haven't taken us forward.

Then the managers don't get held to account because the blame is then shifted on to the players. Then as fans we decide which players we like and which ones we don't.

No amount is going to improve us until we start holding those in charge to account.
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The same way you lot held your owners to account in the recent breakaway league situation ?

pathetic
 
roydo said:
So, in essence, our owner and his mate have sommet like £12000 Million between them.

But some on here think they dont know how to raise a few bob.
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That is the point I am making though. If we had Usmanov on board we wouldn't be touching the likes of Rights Media Funding Limited with a bargepole.

They are vultures who prey on Clubs with cashflow issues. It is the equivalent of a pay day loan.

When Football closed down in Spain due to COVID. RMFL propped up 11 Spanish clubs in exchange for their future TV rights. When West Ham's porn barons couldn't get a bank loan at a decent rate RMFL stepped in.
 

gwladysnight said:
I love contradictions on here. We must be owned by someone really wealthy because we are being so badly run and wasting money left, right and centre.

Which in the next breadth is Moshiri and Usmanov must be geniuses because they are so wealthy. They are so wealthy because they basically got handed their money by Putin.

Then we get the idea that we must be getting bankrolled to success because Moshiri has pumped money in. Well Ellis Short pumped £200m in to Sunderland, Shahid has pumped £186m into Fulham. How successful have they been.

To me Moshiri looks far more like those two than Chelsea or Citys owners who have taken their clubs forward and who have generated success and above all huge legitimate rises in commercial revenue. We could be owned by Usmanov and things may come good. Equally, Moshiri might just be a gambler, throwing good money after bad trying to chase his losses.
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I feel we are looking like a qpr project rather than a chelsea and Man City project.
 

gwladysnight said:
As I said, Wow.

You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Nothing new there though. Weighted Average Cost of Capital is not the cost of borrowing from a financial institution, though that is part of it. It is a calculation of a firm's cost of capital in which each category of capital is proportionately weighted. All sources of capital, including common stock, preferred stock, bonds, and any other long-term debt, are included in a WACC calculation.

The exact reason Amazon is borrowing money it doesn't need is so it can lower it's WACC. Borrowing money so cheaply reduces it's WACC, makes it more attractive to investors and allows it to expand more quickly.

I told you what rate Amazon are borrowing money at 1% over treasuries.

Pretending you are a master investor and borrowing money at 8% and being able to spot investments that will make you see a profit in 3-6 months. Then not understanding something as basic as WACC. Deary Me.
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Yes. It's the cost of borrowing money, which for Amazon is 8%.

Bezos could give them the money for free, but he would rather they borrow it at 8%. Its just a small example of why borrowing at 7% is not as catastrophic as you seem to think.

I'm not sure I've made out I'm a master investor. The only person who seems to have mentioned that is you.

But I'll give you a clue, the SP500 grew around 20% in the last 6 months, and you can borrow money to buy into it at 8% p/a what do you make? It begins with P and ends in "it". Its really not rocket science mate, even though you cant seem to grasp the concept of leverage.

Oh and I'll await to see some evidence that Putin gave Moshiri and Usmanov all their money like you claimed. Or would you like to backtrack from those comments?
 
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gwladysnight said:
That is the point I am making though. If we had Usmanov on board we wouldn't be touching the likes of Rights Media Funding Limited with a bargepole.

They are vultures who prey on Clubs with cashflow issues. It is the equivalent of a pay day loan.

When Football closed down in Spain due to COVID. RMFL propped up 11 Spanish clubs in exchange for their future TV rights. When West Ham's porn barons couldn't get a bank loan at a decent rate RMFL stepped in.
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What pay day loan company charge 7%?
 
jazzy said:
To be fair it doesn't sound that "basic". Glad I chose law over finance though the failure to get maths O level might have had something to do with it. lol
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Hes essentially copied that from a finance website. He doesnt have a clue what any of it means, because if he did he would grasp it merely validates the point I was making, that Amazon, with a multi billionaire owner access capital at a higher rate than what our loan is charged at.
 

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