Champions League revamp

[collymcd]

Does anyone really care what Pep or Milner or Klopp ultimately think though?

As usual the media just love clickbait and drama rather than looking at the actual problems.

WHY have the big 6 been given so much power and influence over the years? what can be done to stop it should this ESL end?

The problem is the PL and UEFA are just as corrupt - if ESL ends then FFP gets tightened (for the love of the game) wild card entries into the CL to keep Liverpool and the like safe and the rest of us in midtable obscurity.

If they stay SKY will continue blowing smoke up the big 6's arses 24/7, Prem Refs will keep favouring the top sides.

The more this drags on for me I laugh at the hypocrisy of it all. There are no good guys in this just one dealer not wanting another dealer to muscle in on his patch.

The whole premise of the Super League is that the world's "superstars" are on show. We've now had two of the world's elite managers come out and publicly dismiss the idea of the 'contest.' So yes, it's quite important what the elite level footballing world think of it. It's a barometer of who they're likely to attract.

 

[Tin-Tin]

 

[BlueToff]

 

[Tin-Tin]

To think he signed this as the CL was his holy grail. Now his club want to take it away from him

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Yeah but the ESL or SL as it will no doubt eventually be called, will be on Disney, which is quite appropriate really....they have really just created a worldwide franchise like American Football...next comes the relocation and leave the ‘legacy fans’ behind.....

I'm talking about what's left behind.

The TV deal which the Premier League and all clubs benefit and rely on currently, will fall apart if the audiences of those 6 clubs are expelled;

It really, really won't.

You take away Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs and you lose the vast majority of your audience.

On what planet do broadcasters pay "comparatively" the same without them?

The Champions League has all of those clubs, and BT paid £1.2 billion for the rights. The Premier League deal is worth about 3x that.

Because those 6 clubs play significantly more in the Premier League.

Anyone who thinks for one moment the TV deal would be anywhere near what it is without the audience's those 6 clubs bring are very, very wrong.

If expelled, the 6 will take huge audiences to the super league, and broadcasters won't continue to pay at current levels without them.

If the person says their comment is off the record, what do you expect them to do?

Sure they could name that person, but they'd never get another story from anyone, anywhere, on any topic, ever.

To not report on it at all, or move on to someone with comment.

All this "I understand from one board member that one unnamed club is having doubts" ... stuff like this is absolute gutter journalism;



No story is better than lies.

Have you been asked for a comment Danny ?

( genuine question)

No mate, wouldn't give one either. Nobody cares what some geek who runs a forum thinks.

I'd just create a poll to quantify fan opinion and cite that.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Don't be stupid.

If one of them was to go under they would just reform and build it up again. It's happened before.

It was a joke

 

[Ivo]

Given there's still semi's and finals to play this season, I find the timing really strange. Why didn't they just wait until the end of the season to announce what they're doing...?

 

[Tin-Tin]

Wont be signing up anytime in future, like Bayern, Dortmund.

 

[Martin Alvito]

What drugs are they on that they haven't had meetings with players and managers to see if they are onside. This is batshid crazy. They have it all set up yet the players, managers and fans are all against it. By far the weirdest period in football history.

Well, let's talk about who they are.

Woodward's background is as an accountant and I-banker. Henry is a Wall Street hedge fund guy. Levy is a businessman. Kroenke is a real estate developer. Abramovich is a fossil fuel magnate. The Sheikh is a royal. These are not people used to dissension from below. They give orders. You take them.

It is telling, to me, that the ones that seem to be more responsive to popular pressure are the guys from authoritarian states. The cabal members that are from countries where political connections mean you can literally disappear your enemies under the right circumstances appear to be more concerned about what the fans think than the cabal members from ostensibly democratic countries.

My answer would therefore be - this is happening because the American and English court systems have let businesses get away with far too much for far too long, and the resulting societies created these shallow, sheltered monsters. I suspect that much the same holds true in Italy and Spain. The Germans wanted no part of this because they are in touch enough to know that they would be publicly pilloried. They would prefer that people not spit in their food in the kitchen when they go out to eat.

The other participants live in such an echo chamber that they did not grasp that the outcry would be this strong. They thought that enough money would smooth over all of the problems. And the truly horrifying thought is that they might just be right.

 

[Lapeno77]

Bayern are like that because they are a tremendously ran club, always have been whilst their biggest rivals fell off due to years of mismanagement which is only really being rectified recently.

Ironically Dortmund have had to recover from the Klopp comedown, after he ran their players into the ground

 

[Zatara]

An opportunity here for players to gain 'legendary' status at these 6 clubs by downing tools and throwing toys out of the pram.

 

[Cool_Blue]

You would imagine if contracts are signed etc that the super league would take the Government to the high court.

I just cant see the ESL not checking loopholes before doing this.

You mean in the same way they checked this over with their PR guys and were assured that “don’t worry, everyone will think it’s a great idea”?

 

[Tin-Tin]

Nothing coming out of the PL meeting this morning

 

[neil999]

Who are the other clubs gonna be then?! Maybe Russian or Turkish??

 

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