Champions League revamp

[Martin Alvito]

You are though mate.

Everton don't get any additional sponsorship because of any image of being good guys.

Sure, there's some small benefit to sponsors from associating yourself with the good guys - Marcus Rashford benefits from being the good guy - he's been quiet eh?

The truth is, money follows audience numbers. Whatever way you spin it, more will watch Man Utd vs Real Madrid than West Brom vs Leeds and that has the value which dictates the TV money.

The way in which image matters to the sponsors is probably best conceptualized as a {0,1} set mapping onto a continuum of evil - if you hit the sponsor's tipping point on the continuum of evil, the sponsor no longer wishes to be associated with you.

Against that there's prestige and audience, which the sponsor will pay for. If you want to get precise and technical about it, it's a two-axis problem where the sponsors will generally tolerate a fair amount of evil, will tolerate substantially more evil to get a fair amount of prestige and audience, and where tolerating evil is priced into what they will pay.

But the fact remains that at a certain threshold of evil, it becomes counterproductive to associate with you. This is why pariah states exist in international relations, and why the name of Michael Richards is only heard today as part of a cautionary tale, or in the context of a discussion of syndicated reruns.

Obviously, I believe that the ESL is much nearer that cutpoint than you do. Again, this is the problem. The fact that my belief is reasonably sustainable, but that you and others disagree, is what motivates the possibility of open conflict. 48 hours ago, that belief wasn't at all credible and conflict was impossible. If it were certain, there would be no conflict. It's the uncertainty that's dangerous.

 

[stipe]

Im expecting a huge back tracking from these two clubs very soon.

Supposedly they were cautious to start with.

ESPN claims different story, according to them UEFA is cowering and semis gonna go ahead. There are so much stories out there, so much lies and bullshit propaganda

Sources: UCL semifinals to go ahead as planned

UEFA is planning for next week's Champions League semis involving European Super League clubs to go ahead as scheduled, sources have told ESPN.

www.espn.co.uk

 

[BlueToff]

 

[Azza]

 

[Toast]

Yes i wrote the same line earlier.

Get the £175mil loan called in from Spurs.

Spurs are literally a one, at a push two man team.

They are bang average.

 

[BlueToff]

ESPN claims different story, according to them UEFA is cowering and semis gonna go ahead

Sources: UCL semifinals to go ahead as planned

UEFA is planning for next week's Champions League semis involving European Super League clubs to go ahead as scheduled, sources have told ESPN.

www.espn.co.uk

That's not 'cowering' as such. It's the legal ramifications of whether they can just kick them out.

UEFA aren't the 'good guys' here unfortunately, they're as bad as the rest of them. But Ceferin has been clear - he wants the harshest sanctions possible.

But these 12 teams will have the best lawyers going as well. City beat UEFA last year on FFP alone.

 

[Zezti]

Imagine how badly you need to mess up to make Evertonians agree with Boris Johnson on something.

 

[ToffeeTim]

100% on this

But it's the repercussions of what happens if they don't go too.

That's where the balancing act comes in.

If the ESL proceeds then the PL is enormously devalued with or without these 6 clubs. The competition won't be there as there will be many meaningless games and the financial gap will be enormous. Not to mention the fact these 6 will use it as a reserve competition and that will enormously effect TV deals.

So you are left with 2 choices. Accept the financial disparity and loss of earnings and continue to play against these sides, or accept the financial hurt in the short term but boot them out with your dignity intact.

These teams cannot have a domestic league and a european super league. If they breakaway then the 14 must move on without them because the alternative is similar in terms of finances, but a thousand times worse in terms of integrity and competitiveness.

 

[TimHowardsBeardJuice]

Not your fault lad. Fundamentally if the game didnt sell its soul to the highest bidder in the first place we wouldnt be here now. Top level togger is bent as a 9 bob note, fifa corrupt, UEFA corrupt, this is all a symptom of the illness that's infested football. It's all been commercialized and run by corporations. This was inevitable in a way.

Maybe so but there are ways to be corrupt and soulless and the old way is better than this way

 

[Tramps_mate]

Yers Farhad!

Anyone putting money on Leicester for the title now???


hmmmm

 

[Jamiednm]

The Super League is all important. The PL becomes a side show if they stay in it. Either way the PL is going to be devalued.

If UEFA/FIFA follow through on their threats to effectively outlaw the ESL and their players, it won't be a particularly exciting prospect for players. They'll miss out on World Cups, continental championships and genuine football careers. It could quickly become a home for pre-retirement players and mercenaries.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

The Italians had a meeting yesterday and did nothing.
I hope we, as a league, have more balls than them.

They literally couldn't give two s*its what happens. Milan, Inter & Juve were all present at that meeting anyway.. chances are they'll have just told the others to pipe down and that was that.

 

[Death]

Looking at the everton thread on rawk. I know i sound niave. I should have expected it. But I'm ashamed how they're going on over there. Saddened.

 

[Amw79]

Imagine how badly you need to mess up to make Evertonians agree with Boris Johnson on something.

I’ve agreed with both Boris Johnson and James Cordon today, starting to think I might be on the wrong side.

 

[Vax]

They literally couldn't give two s*its what happens. Milan, Inter & Juve were all present at that meeting anyway.. chances are they'll have just told the others to pipe down and that was that.

Still embarrassing. 3 guys against 17. I bet that some just tried to sneak into the ESL, that's why they shut up.