Champions League revamp

[ForeverBlue92]

The state insisting 51% fan owned.

If that happens goodbye BMD. No one is pumping £500 million into the club to not own over half of it.

Wages and transfer fees would also massively have to change.

 

[stipe]

Maybe normal people work in the media/press dept and has said something is being prepared

There are so much spins and stories out there and everyone is on bandwagon, this could be just some PR exercise by City and Chelsea. I mean i don't believe one bit this two clubs found out and were only"forced" to join last week, this Super League project was in making for months, not over single dinner last week

 

[Saint Domingo]

If nothing else hopefully this forces the media and footballing governing bodies to stop their obsession with the big 6. It had gone way way too far. Maybe now we’ll see a swing back and a reminder that there’s 86 other teams in the football league also.

 

[daza_1973]

Its like footballs version of the Cuban Missiles crisis lol

 

[Martin Alvito]

Maybe mate but I hope not. Bridges have been burned and I hate the other 14 clubs hanging around like jilted birds hoping for their cheating fella to agree to come back.

Chuck his belongings out the kin window.

While I agree, and I suspect Moshiri agrees, the sincere preference of most of the 14 is probably to take them back in some way, shape or form.

 

[marmor]

To me it’s too late for these clubs to do a u-turn. They have got into bed with this idea, gone public and laid out their selfish plans with financial details.
if the football authorities do this correct, this will leave the clubs with a 12 team league where that can ONLY play each other.

ban from all domestic leagues.
ban from all domestic cups
ban from all European competitions
Withdraw clubs from affiliation from fifa/uefa
Ban from internationals for players playing for unregistered clubs with governing body.
A very unrealistic final step would be to strip the clubs using the city’s/boroughs name (think only Arsenal could keep their name)


let them have their 12 team super league playing each other 4 times a year + their own cup competition.
Sure it will have the support from afar and they can continue with their riches. Let other teams join from usa and Asia.
I’m fairly confident football would thrive for years if we hit them hard as in the steps above. I can only see players withdrawing apart from the few who only care about their salary.

 

[tsubaki]

Noooo surely not?

the super league of 20 teams in a 2 x 10 league format is still all they are proposing.
They still fully intend to play in their domestic leagues.
You think they are happy to just play 18 games in the league and then the knock out stage? They are potentially only playing 20 games a season.

TBF if you have only twenty games a season then that makes them premium events.

 

[mightymoyes]

Agreed - Perez said it's binding last night; if that is shown to be incorrect it could well be over.

perez is a delusional , greedy old man, the fact they put him in charge says it all

 

[jamieni]

Might explain why some of the six are maybe less wedded to the SL than others.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

That would argue in favor of the 14 and UEFA on different grounds.

Take the CART/Indy split. CART took the drivers and most of the sponsors and money. Indy had the crown jewel, the 500, and kicked the drivers that didn't join their circuit out of the 500. They ended up with some fairly ridiculous winners of the 500 for a couple of years (Buddy Lazier?), but in the end, Indy won because they had the 500 and the drivers came back.

I'm not making an argument about integrity. I'm making an argument about image, which is what matters to the sponsors - and as a consequence, to the players who take the sponsors' money.

If you have enough money, you can even tell the sponsors where to go. The Masters did it. The 14 now have the ability to give the six the boot, pass whatever rules they want to enable themselves to get the money to fight, and go to war. The only question is whether or not they collectively have the will.

There's ample reason to believe that they can win the fight, should they choose to join it. Which is exactly the problem, and why I believe that a parting of the ways is a real possibility - the outcome is uncertain. If we knew how the chips would fall, the 14 would muck their cards if they're going to lose, and the six would muck their cards if they're going to lose.

Your argument boils down to the notion that the 14 are so risk-averse that they'll capitulate. That's what Woodward et al are betting on. I'm not convinced. I think that by alienating FIFA, UEFA and the fans, the ESL changed the game to their own detriment. Whether or not that's enough for the fight to be joined is, to me, an open question rather than a foregone conclusion.

You are though mate.

Everton don't get any additional sponsorship because of any image of being good guys.

Sure, there's some small benefit to sponsors from associating yourself with the good guys - Marcus Rashford benefits from being the good guy - he's been quiet eh?

The truth is, money follows audience numbers. Whatever way you spin it, more will watch Man Utd vs Real Madrid than West Brom vs Leeds and that has the value which dictates the TV money.

 

[brieverton]

It isn't enough for the project to collapse either.

For our interest and the sake of the stadium development we have to have a solution that provides long-term stability.

Any compromise that merely papers over the cracks is worse imo than a stalemate and split.

The clubs and football associations have to sit round the table and begin intensive discussions.

This is a once in a century opportunity to reform and restructure in a way that maximises benefit for all and not the few.

The genie is out of the bottle now, it must be put back and not allowed to re-emerge.

 

[Death]

Its just very interesting. Half me says there's no way the prem are going to severely punish the darlings but te other half thinks how can they not?

It's total chaos.

 

[number4.]

perez is a delusional , greedy old man, the fact they put him in charge says it all

Completely agree - but that doesnt mean that he is wrong on it being legally binding. My gut feeling is it wont be, if one goes, they all go

 

[SunKing]

Such is the world we live in that after a brief unity against the awfulness of this idea, as soon as clubs (like ourselves) start lambasting the plans we get called hypocrites and jealous. Same as Neville last night with Klopp, people so precious and selfish about there own egos being besmirched they cant see the bigger picture. You know what sod them, arrogance absolutely stinks. I hope that everything gets thrown at them as punishment.

 

[Alan Whittle]

perez is a delusional , greedy old man, the fact they put him in charge says it all

Mugged into that by the Yank trio I shouldn’t wonder.