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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


catcherintherye said:
Was he "excellent" though?

I mean I've had a look at his numbers, in what is a very poor league (relatively speaking) and in the best team he was averaging 7 goals a season as a forward. It doesn't smack me as a player who is levels above that league. He was also at a rate worse than 1 in 3. Haaland by comparison- much younger- scored at a better than a goal a game and had 16 in his first season as a teenager. That to me is "excellent".

He had a decent record in Austria but I sense that was his level. The Austrian league is probably about the championship standard and I sense thats his level. At 25, you do look at players and think, in honesty how much better are they going to get?

I woudn't even criticise Klopp for this either. He's played 9 games this season and scored 1 goal, and that came in a game where they scored 7. In tight games he's just too small and slow to have an influence.

I suspect their issue with him, is on top of the 10m or so they wasted on him, there will be probably double that (conservatively speaking) in terms of agents and sign on fees. There will also be significant loyalty payments if they want him to go out. So an offer of say 10m quid sounds fine, until a portion of that ends up going to the player.

I can't make sense of it. I would have taken what I could have got this window.
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Firstly you are right - it is hard to judge, but prior to him signing for Liverpool, I certainly would have been aware of him as someone who was building a reputation for himself quite quickly. I suppose alot of that was due to the Halo effect of playing with Haaland & I have been quick to point out in the past that for every M'Bappe there will always be a babyoko so perhaps his reputation lifted with the ship, as Salzburg's reputation developed.

Quick look at the stats (transfermarkt); he scored 64 and assisted 44 at RBS; in league and Europe in 199 games, that is a pretty solid return for a player who played behind the striker rather than up top during his time there.
 
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Genuinely can’t really believe what I’m reading here.

Nobody had heard of him before yesterday and now it’s being hailed as the deal of the century.

And what’s it got to do with KFC anyway!?

Remember last January when Minamino was the signing of the season?
 

number4. said:
Firstly you are right - it is hard to judge, but prior to him signing for Liverpool, I certainly would have been aware of him as someone who was building a reputation for himself quite quickly. I suppose alot of that was due to the Halo effect of playing with Haaland & I have been quick to point out in the past that for every M'Bappe there will always be a babyoko so perhaps his reputation lifted with the ship, as Salzburg's reputation developed.

Quick look at the stats (transfermarkt); he scored 64 and assisted 44 at RBS; in league and Europe in 199 games, that is a pretty solid return for a player who played behind the striker rather than up top during his time there.
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Yep they're good stats them tbf

tbh I hadn't heard of him until he played against the rs and then talk came of them being interested. Not sure of they had scouted him previously or just liked the look of him over those 2 games. But it was a small outlay I think of around 8m so probably worth the punt.

Klopp obviously doesn't rate him after having being able to look at him first hand but it was a low cost punt. They'll probably make their money back or turn a small profit on him.
 
Arteta10 said:
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Genuinely can’t really believe what I’m reading here.

Nobody had heard of him before yesterday and now it’s being hailed as the deal of the century.

And what’s it got to do with KFC anyway!?

Remember last January when Minamino was the signing of the season?
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The same Michael Edwards who bought Karius, Adrian, Klavan, Curtis Davis, Tsimikas, Keita, Shaqiri, Oxlade Chamberlain, Minamino,

This the bloke? Apart from spending world record fees on Allison Van Dijk and huge fees on Fabinho and the front three, what exactly has he done?
 
Saint Domingo said:
The same Michael Edwards who bought Karius, Adrian, Klavan, Curtis Davis, Tsimikas, Keita, Shaqiri, Oxlade Chamberlain, Minamino,

This the bloke? Apart from spending world record fees on Allison Van Dijk and huge fees on Fabinho and the front three, what exactly has he done?
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Minamino was the signing of the season last year tho if you remember correctly...
 

Arteta10 said:
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Genuinely can’t really believe what I’m reading here.

Nobody had heard of him before yesterday and now it’s being hailed as the deal of the century.

And what’s it got to do with KFC anyway!?

Remember last January when Minamino was the signing of the season?
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And how they waited 6 months for Naby Keita who was gonna tear the league apart .... they just don’t help themselves do they ?
 
Borussin said:
He has started every game he’s been available to play.

But yes, he has struggled, in a poor team.

He showed what he is about more in Stuttgart, only time will tell if he fulfills this potential.

Easy decision for Liverpool though, pay a loan fee, get a good look at him, if they like him, they pay for him, if not, send him back and move on. What’s not to like about a deal like this.
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Both or either will only have 1 decent rs game...any guesses who against?
 

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