Usmanov

[Toffeelover]

But even what Stalin did, is far beyond what Putin has done.

I don't agree with Putin, but some of the criticism of him is too harsh. I see our lot in charge as just as bad.

In what way, have we locked up Sir Kier?

 

[tim cahill]

Putin is far from perfect, but the comparison with Hitler is absolutely ludicrous. Putin has held and won numerus elections. Hitler didn't. In about half the time Putin has been in power, Hitler had committed mass genocide, miurdered millions of Jewish people, declared war on most of the world, suspended all press freedoms, banned then murdered trade unionists, tried to murder every homosexual, slav, socialists, feminist, communist who was alive etc etc.

The comparison is way off.

Putin is unsavoury, so is Boris Johnson, Theresa May and David Cameron before them. Our political establishment are in no position to judge him, when you think of the stunts they've pulled around Brexit.

He's a gangster. But when he's no longer in charge another gangster will take over.

 

[degsy]

But even what Stalin did, is far beyond what Putin has done.

I don't agree with Putin, but some of the criticism of him is too harsh. I see our lot in charge as just as bad.

#whatabout

 

[degsy]

But even what Stalin did, is far beyond what Putin has done.

I don't agree with Putin, but some of the criticism of him is too harsh I see our lot in charge as just as bad.

He's a 'kin Dictator, how harsh do you have to be

 

[catcherintherye]

He's a gangster. But when he's no longer in charge another gangster will take over.

How is he any different from Trump, or he frauds in charge of this country?

 

[Mrtallywacker]

He's a 'kin Dictator, how harsh do you have to be

If his only sin is telling his family what to do we shouldn't be too harsh on him my son.
God bless.

 

[catcherintherye]

In what way, have we locked up Sir Kier?

They have trashed the reputation of a sweet and harmless old man who was leader of the opposition, to the point people have tried to murder him.

The difference between the two is that Corbyn was leader of the opposition, the trouble maker in Russia is an absolute nobody who's party have no seats. Our state has put similarly peripheral political figures in jail (see Tommy Sheridan, Julian Assange etc).

 

[catcherintherye]

It's hard to lose when......

1. There isn't an opposition / party (see.. Boris Berfezovsky / Boris Nemtsov etc)

2. You count the votes


So saying they hold elections and he wins them isn't really a thing, North Korea also hold elections, good luck if you want to run in one

The guy rules the place and does what he can to keep power, but it isn't a democracy such as is enjoyed elsewhere in the world even if folks do get a 'vote'.

There is an opposition.

And they count the votes. In the US they actively try to throw votes out. Their President tries to get people to throw out votes of other races they don't like, and the main political party back him to the hilt. Russia does nothing akin to that, and gets treated as worse.

 

[Toffeelover]

They have trashed the reputation of a sweet and harmless old man who was leader of the opposition, to the point people have tried to murder him.

The difference between the two is that Corbyn was leader of the opposition, the trouble maker in Russia is an absolute nobody who's party have no seats. Our state has put similarly peripheral political figures in jail (see Tommy Sheridan, Julian Assange etc).

Stick to football.

 

[catcherintherye]

Stick to football.

Fair point!

 

[sageyefc]

It’s time to send out the signal, we need you uzi and that coin purse

 

[Yarrgh]

This protest movement will do what most others do, it will die down. The vast majority of Russians vehemently disagree with them (as can be seen by their pathetic performance in elections). They are a trouble making minority, who want a level of influence their popular support doesn't merit. Putin is doing a very good job with Russia and has really turned them around. He's also got a proud recordof fighting Islamic extremists in the MIddle East, unlike America & Turkey who have funded them.

This is actually something that most people don't get. As distasteful as Putin is over here, he isn't in his homeland. Putin took over after the collapse of the Soviet Union and turned Russia back in to a serious force economically and politically on the world stage. He put Russia back on the map and improved living standards through the roof. Also compared to their historical leaders, the guy's a saint to the average citizen.

 

[matty1878]

It’s time to send out the signal, we need you uzi and that coin purse


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[catcherintherye]

This is actually something that most people don't get. As distasteful as Putin is over here, he isn't in his homeland. Putin took over after the collapse of the Soviet Union and turned Russia back in to a serious force economically and politically on the world stage. He put Russia back on the map and improved living standards through the roof. Also compared to their historical leaders, the guy's a saint to the average citizen.

He's overseen aperiod of economic growth which is remarkable. I'm not making a morale judgement and saying "that makes x,y or z ok" but just giving the facts as I see them.

I'd also say, some of the stunts the American president has done, or that were pulled in the Brexit fiasco (furlughing Parliament, essentially shutting down the democratic body of the country) go beyond what he is alleged to have done.

 

[charlie atkins]

I dont care if he is dodgy. Get him in.