Computer games.

I'm not seeing it. I have struggled to play more than a couple of hours as it is just boring. I can ignore the bugs as they will be sorted, but the actual game world feels dead. The combat and the driving are just abysmal. I've not seen anything ground breaking or exciting.
Yeap I’m just in the part where that sad thing happens. At start and hope it picks up. Just relying on the story and the the combat and strategising upgrades to make me enjoying it because it’s very sub par as an open world almost gta3 levels with much better graphics obviously. It’s very just getting from a to b and not arsed about what may happen on the journey.
 

To this day The Division remains in my top 10 games ever, in no small part because of this. Obviously it helps that the gunplay and atmosphere of that game is amazing, but yeah, totally missed all the problems that bogged it down at launch.
That's funny.. I loved The Division when it first came out, played it religiously. In the end I got bogged down by a less-than-stellar end game experience and the Dark Zone was a mess, so I shelved it and went back to Destiny.

Months later I tried to go back as I'd heard that a whole number of issues where corrected and QoL improvements made.. but I just couldn't get back into it. Same with The Division 2 - bought it on launch day and I got bored within about 10-12 hours. I guess those first couple of months of the first game were a novelty or something..
 
What's your top 5 video games and top 5 most disappointing games?

For me, top 5:

Swos 96/97
Red dead redemption (the first one)
Super Mario 3
Grow up
Shenmue 2

Biggest disappointments:

Cyberpunk 2077
Final fantasy 8
GTA 4
Headhunter (on Dreamcast)
Every FIFA (excluding wc98)
 
What's your top 5 video games and top 5 most disappointing games?

For me, top 5:

Swos 96/97
Red dead redemption (the first one)
Super Mario 3
Grow up
Shenmue 2

Biggest disappointments:

Cyberpunk 2077
Final fantasy 8
GTA 4
Headhunter (on Dreamcast)
Every FIFA (excluding wc98)
First red dead I must have put 700 hours into that with game and online 100% everything all trophy dlc etc. And lived online for a spell. Loved everything about it.
 
Even with no bugs and high frames etc the game is very lacking as an open world IMO. Npcs are dreadful they just stand around and yell out random things from time to time. The AI is bad especially them driving. A lot of other substantial stuff that the Witcher got right six years ago that this doesn’t have.

I'm not seeing it. I have struggled to play more than a couple of hours as it is just boring. I can ignore the bugs as they will be sorted, but the actual game world feels dead. The combat and the driving are just abysmal. I've not seen anything ground breaking or exciting.

Well I’m having fun. Sucks to be yous I guess ;)
 

Or atleast waited for a ps5 release on later date. Ps5 has the capacity to make a good game out of it.
By all accounts, the Series X version of the game is by far and away the best console version of the game if reports/reviews are to be believed. That's mainly why I'm holding off on it until I get my hands on a Series X myself.
 
By all accounts, the Series X version of the game is by far and away the best console version of the game if reports/reviews are to be believed. That's mainly why I'm holding off on it until I get my hands on a Series X myself.
My mate is playing it on Series X. He said "it's flawless. Haven't seen a single bug".

I watched him streaming on Twitch for about 10mins and saw multiple bugs all over the place.

The lack of general "polish" is unbelievable too. This screenshot is the last frame of a little gameplay clip he sent to our WhatsApp group, saying how great the combat is with a katana.

People will see what they want to when they're really invested in something I guess, because the combat looked pretty awful to me, and the absolute state of the graphics here:


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Genuinely, I've seen PS3 games with better graphics than that.
 
What's your top 5 video games and top 5 most disappointing games?

For me, top 5:

Swos 96/97
Red dead redemption (the first one)
Super Mario 3
Grow up
Shenmue 2

Biggest disappointments:

Cyberpunk 2077
Final fantasy 8
GTA 4
Headhunter (on Dreamcast)
Every FIFA (excluding wc98)

Most Disappointing:

5. Black & White (PC)
- Hyped to death, came out, expected an innovative version of Populous, ended up being a weird Tamagotchi-esque god game with annoying controls. Plus it required a super PC to run at the time; anything less resulted in a mess.

4. Spore (PC) - I'm a huge Will Wright fan, so like many people I was hyped for Spore. The story with this is similar to Black & White - not bad, but stripped back and repetitive. Creature creator was great though.

3. Fantastic Dizzy (Sega Mega Drive) - After loving the Dizzy games on the Speccy, Dizzy on the MD was something I really looked forward to. It's one of those games that isn't terrible, but below par; it irritates me and I can only manage half an hour whenever I try to give it another shot.

2. Red Dead Redemption 2 (PC) - Not a bad game at all, but we're talking disappointing. Pretentious at the expense of the gameplay experience, weaker in nearly every way than the first game. A technical marvel; a gameplay minnow.

1. Final Fantasy XV (PC)- Terrible disappointment and showed just how far FF had fell. Crap characters, a plot with more holes in than a swiss cheese, all flash, no substance. Grim.


Best (my word this list changes constantly...):

5. Shadowrun (Sega Mega Drive)
- With all the hype on Cyberpunk, I wasn't particularly bothered as it'd take something insane to replace my favourite game in this genre. Shadowrun, never released in the UK except on the Sega Channel, is incredible. Open world before the term open world existed, an incredible hacking/cyberspace element, mad customisation, absolutely oozing atmosphere, the perfect soundtrack (techno, futuristic, grungy - just great, makes perfect use of the Mega Drive SFX chip). It's gaining more love these days but I've been raving about it since the 90s - a must play, even now.

4. World of Warcraft (PC) - Not the abomination it is now; rather "vanilla" WoW and the first few expansions were breathtaking. A literal second world to indulge yourself in. The social interaction was unlike anything before or since. Those lucky enough to play it the first few years it was out know why it's on this list; anyone who only picked it up in the last few years would be baffled.

3. Rimworld (PC) - I've sunk more hours into this game than any other. Rimworld defies description in many ways - for most, graphically it's a put off and the idea of it (colony builder where you don't really directly control the colonists but 'organise' them) takes some getting used to, but when you're into it, you're into it for thousands of hours. It's the one game on this list I'd implore everyone to try - at the price tag, it's a steal, there's never a sale and there's no need for one.

2. Chrono Trigger (SNES) - I'm a JRPG fan, but when one is bad, it really turns me away. So I generally only like top-drawer offerings from the genre. This is one of them to say the least. It has charm in abundance, a stellar time-hopping storyline before it was cliché, memorable characters, tremendous art design, lovely soundtrack, an intuitive and thoroughly innovative combat system that was a hybrid of ATB and real time. It's regularly listed as one of the greatest games of all time, and for good reason. Pick up the DS version if you don't have access to an everdrive/SNES in the UK, it's just as good.

1. Final Fantasy VII (PS1) - I freely admit that graphically this has aged awfully. It has translation issues. The story arguably isn't quite as good as FF6. But FF7 remains to this day the only game I can look at as the sum of all its' parts and call an absolute masterpiece. The best soundtrack in gaming, bar none. Every single character is insanely memorable, protagonists and antagonists. The scale of the world for the time was astonishing, the sheer sense of journey and discovery; the first time you leave Midgar remains one of gaming's greatest moments. A twist that blew me away and reduced me to tears. Never before or since have I care so deeply about what happens in a piece of media, game or movie. A transcendent experience for me and it'd take something truly astonishing to ever dislodge it from my top spot.
 
What's your top 5 video games and top 5 most disappointing games?

For me, top 5:

Swos 96/97
Red dead redemption (the first one)
Super Mario 3
Grow up
Shenmue 2

Biggest disappointments:

Cyberpunk 2077
Final fantasy 8
GTA 4
Headhunter (on Dreamcast)
Every FIFA (excluding wc98)
Final fantasy 8 really failed to build on the best themes of 7. Absolute travesty.
FF9 was decent. Haven’t played a single one since but they all look very samey.
 
Final fantasy 8 really failed to build on the best themes of 7. Absolute travesty.
FF9 was decent. Haven’t played a single one since but they all look very samey.

The card game in 8, Triple Triad, was the best side game in the whole series though. I play 8 every now and then just for that.

FF10 is good. Not great but good. But you aren't missing anything outstanding by skipping it, though the remaster on Switch or whatever is worth picking up on sale.
 

What's your top 5 video games and top 5 most disappointing games?

For me, top 5:

Swos 96/97
Red dead redemption (the first one)
Super Mario 3
Grow up
Shenmue 2

Biggest disappointments:

Cyberpunk 2077
Final fantasy 8
GTA 4
Headhunter (on Dreamcast)
Every FIFA (excluding wc98)
Off the top of my head, and probably not even close to my definitive list:

Championship Manager 01/02 (There have been entries which are objectively "better" but that's the version I connected with the most)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (Unbelievable game)
Street Fighter II
FIFA 98 RTWC (Indoor 5-a-side!!!)
Far Cry 3


Cyberpunk (so far. Will see what the proper Next Generation versions bring)
Most FIFAs
Red Dead Redemption 2 (I just couldn't get into it. I know loads absolutely loved it)
Warzone (they should have just developed Blackout)
Perfect Dark Zero (oh the horror)
 
The card game in 8, Triple Triad, was the best side game in the whole series though. I play 8 every now and then just for that.

FF10 is good. Not great but good. But you aren't missing anything outstanding by skipping it, though the remaster on Switch or whatever is worth picking up on sale.
I was gonna mention the card game. Think I played that most. Trying to find all the cards.
 
I was gonna mention the card game. Think I played that most. Trying to find all the cards.

Big reason it's not on my personal disappointments list.

That and... to be honest, as I've got older and tried it a few more times, it's not actually that bad a game. The pacing is off, particularly towards the end, and the Orphanage scene exposition is pure insanity, but Squall is a really misunderstood character due to his brooding early on and the game actually sort of works. It's not "great" but most of the abuse it gets is because it follows FF7, which is astonishing.

It deserves every criticism it gets for the magic drawing system though. Good lord is that broken.
 
Big reason it's not on my personal disappointments list.

That and... to be honest, as I've got older and tried it a few more times, it's not actually that bad a game. The pacing is off, particularly towards the end, and the Orphanage scene exposition is pure insanity, but Squall is a really misunderstood character due to his brooding early on and the game actually sort of works. It's not "great" but most of the abuse it gets is because it follows FF7, which is astonishing.

It deserves every criticism it gets for the magic drawing system though. Good lord is that broken.
Years since I played it. Can remember the summons taking ages each time. Think it was more that it didn’t embrace the fantasy side of things so much. I remember being excited for its release. Must have been 2001 or something.
Still probably put over 100 hours into it mind. I always got a bit bored at the final parts of the ff games. Best bits for me were always the sub games and finding every item
 
I always feel when an RPG developer prioritizes graphics and detail on an expansive open world game it’s a recipe for disaster (unless it was created solely for PC).

It just takes up too much of the GPU when it could be utilized elsewhere.
 

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