Confirmed Signing Allan

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Zezti said:
Gylfi, Bolasie and Williams were all from teams below us who don't even have 1 CL appearance between them. Allan has nearly 30. Not that its the best indicator of quality but its enough imo to show he's way ahead of those you listed. Rooney's the only exception and if I'm being honest we should have kept him for another season, but 1 striker-turned-midfielder isn't comparable to an actual midfielder who our manager personally knows, anyway.
Buying 24 year olds, giving them a fat wage on a 5 year deal is exactly how we end up with all this immovable crap when they don't step up.
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Saying “buy the best players,” is overly simplistic, though, as you know.

We can’t attract the world’s best 27-29 year olds from the world’s best teams.

That’s where idealism hits reality, and that’s why we ended up with the best players from the teams below us in the league.

The only strategy for success is to buy uncut gems.
 
allen said:
Saying “buy the best players,” is overly simplistic, though, as you know.

We can’t attract the world’s best 27-29 year olds from the world’s best teams.

That’s where idealism hits reality, and that’s why we ended up with the best players from the teams below us in the league.

The only strategy for success is to buy uncut gems.
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I didn't say that?
Uncut gems are gambles that can work but we need a mix.
 
Zezti said:
I didn't say that?
Uncut gems are gambles that can work but we need a mix.
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I didn’t say you did, I was pulling the argument to its logical extreme and suggesting you didn’t think that either, because nobody reasonable would.

As I said, I’d have Allan. We need leaders in midfield, and you don’t get many 22 year olds ready to do that.

But generally speaking, buying ready-made players in their late 20s who would improve us is really bloody difficult.
 
allen said:
Saying “buy the best players,” is overly simplistic, though, as you know.

We can’t attract the world’s best 27-29 year olds from the world’s best teams.

That’s where idealism hits reality, and that’s why we ended up with the best players from the teams below us in the league.

The only strategy for success is to buy uncut gems.
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This fanbase doesn't have the patience to allow those gems to shine.
 

Not a sniff of silverware in 25 years and some fans still champion signing nothing but inconsistent yooth.

Do you think LFC fans care their best players are all 28/29 when they are watching their side win Champions Leagues & League Titles? Nah ah.

Get him in!
 
DaChunk said:
We'll buy him just so Brands can hand out another 5 year contract to an aging player. The EFC special.
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5 year deals are handed out for ffp reasons, so the player is cheaper.
Gilfi Sig is costing us 14 mil a year Because of his contract
 

ForeverBlue92 said:
Not a sniff of silverware in 25 years and some fans still champion signing nothing but inconsistent yooth.

Do you think LFC fans care their best players are all 28/29 when they are watching their side win Champions Leagues & League Titles? Nah ah.

Get him in!
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The only proper first team players they’ve bought in the last few years over 25 have been Shaqiri and Van Dijk. Both 26.

Liverpool provide support for the argument for buying players who’re not yet at their peak rather than the other way round.
 
zook said:
The only proper first team players they’ve bought in the last few years over 25 have been Shaqiri and Van Dijk. Both 26.

Liverpool provide support for the argument for buying players who’re not yet at their peak rather than the other way round.
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Mane
Salah
VVD
Allison
Firmino

All 28/29

May not have signed them at that age but all currently at their peak - history has taught us any young player good enough to reach a high peak is sold before then - Rooney, Lukaku, Stones, Barkley (to a lesser extent) and no doubt Richarlison is next.

Im personally sick of just signing players to do well only to bugger off elswhere before they reach their prime.

We need proven players in their prime now.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Mane
Salah
VVD
Allison
Firmino

All 28/29

May not have signed them at that age but all currently at their peak - history has taught us any young player good enough to reach a high peak is sold before then - Rooney, Lukaku, Stones, Barkley (to a lesser extent) and no doubt Richarlison is next.

Im personally sick of just signing players to do well only to bugger off elswhere before they reach their prime.

We need proven players in their prime now.
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So not Allan then?

Cos a player who doesn't get games for their National team is not a proven talent.
 

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