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Keiran said:
It wouldn't be every other season. It would be 4 or 5, a couple either side of the World Cup and you could shift the schedule to get it back to Aug-May.

Why is it so important the season runs Aug-May anyway?
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Because June and July are when most people go on holidays.
 

Lanolin said:
You’re very wrong about broadcasters at least. That’s my area of expertise so I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt. People stay in in the winter, they go out in the summer. Broadcasters don’t want their biggest games being played in the middle of july when people are on holiday and on days out.
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That's your area of expertise? lol

The most watched and attended sporting events of all time are played in the summer lol

The Olympics, World Cup, Cricket, Tour De France, Wimbledon.

WA Toffee said:
Because June and July are when most people go on holidays.
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If people stay in, they are watching sport. If people go on holiday, they are watching sport in bars. if they go out, they are watching them in a beer garden.

It really doesn't matter when they host this stuff, people will watch it.
 

Lanolin said:
Obviously it could happen, but there are a number of barriers. Broadcasters may well want things to remain the same. Fans definitely will. Football fans are notoriously resistant to change, and changing the start and end of the season would be almost sacrilegious to many. Contracts would be an issue too. Player contracts tend to run until June, you’d potentially end up with a load of players making free transfers for the final month of the season, it’d be carnage.
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The big issue with such an approach (beyond the obvious of how do you finish a league season in July when the delayed Euros will be next year?) is that you are just spreading the contagion to future seasons. With that you are going to end up with greater complications and ultimately more legal challenges.

Thats the key point in this. The general consensus seems to be one around ethics, what ethical is the right thing to do. My view is quite quickly it will turn to legal issues. We are a few days into the suspension, as things stand we start again in April and we complete the season so it's a very abstract question. However, privately clubs, broadcasters and sponsors will be getting advise as to what they are going to do in the situation where the league is cancelled. Very quickly that will be the focus point of the league.

There is an inherent bias towards Liverpool, but theres a reason for it. They essentially have the most supporters (along with manchester United) so bring in the most money. It's pragmatism of the league. However if there arises an issue that causes greater financial difficulties than annoying Liverpool, then it's easy to see what wins out.

If you were advising the league, you would be quite clear and see the easiest thing will be to cancel the league and void it. It's not without it's problems, but it's actually quite difficult to argue from a legal perspective. Has any runner sued Athletics because of a false start in a race having to be re run? Most bookmakers will not pay out on title winners this season, and will say the results are only valid if the competition is completed etc etc.

The competition rules are quite clear, you keep the squad you have in August, minus a 1 month grace period in January. If we wanted to re-start the season in August, what happens to the transfer window? What happens with players contracts? What happens if clubs massively strengthen their 11?

In a legal court, these are the sort of black and white issues that will be brought out. It would be very easy for a lawyer for say Bournemouth to point out, not only has the approach been wholly inconsistent, but such a solution goes against the rules of the competition. The PL would likely lose such a case and may have to start re-instating teams. It's like pandoras box, the more you delve into this, the harder it becomes. Each answer present 2 more questions.

When push comes to shove, I can only really see Liverpool wanting to start awarding places based upon 28/9 games. I can see a number of clubs wanting to repeat the season (the bottom 6 for one) and we are led to believe Tottenham too. The others will vacilate. But Liverpool have got to do a lot of relationship building in order to get this across the line. If an agreement was in place that European football was based upon the current standings I can easily see how you start to get to the 12 teams you need to just void the season.
 
Nymzee said:
I’ll go back to my running analogy of why this doesn’t make sense.

If I line up with 9 other people to run the 100m, we set off, after 50m I’m winning and the race gets halted. Have I won the gold medal? Do we ignore all the possibility that can happen over the course of the rest of the race?
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In the history of Athletics, this has happened 100's of times, and I can't think of a single one where the race winner was declared. This will be brought up in a court as well, as clear evidence of what needs to happen.
 

catcherintherye said:
In the history of Athletics, this has happened 100's of times, and I can't think of a single one where the race winner was declared. This will be brought up in a court as well, as clear evidence of what needs to happen.
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Exactly, I just don't see how Liverpool would have any leg to stand on thinking they've won this league as it stands.

Yeh it's very, very unlikely they'd lose it but losing 4 games in 7 was very, very unlikely for them this season and it happened, it was very, very unlikely Leicester would win the PL but they did.
 
catcherintherye said:
The big issue with such an approach (beyond the obvious of how do you finish a league season in July when the delayed Euros will be next year?) is that you are just spreading the contagion to future seasons. With that you are going to end up with greater complications and ultimately more legal challenges.

Thats the key point in this. The general consensus seems to be one around ethics, what ethical is the right thing to do. My view is quite quickly it will turn to legal issues. We are a few days into the suspension, as things stand we start again in April and we complete the season so it's a very abstract question. However, privately clubs, broadcasters and sponsors will be getting advise as to what they are going to do in the situation where the league is cancelled. Very quickly that will be the focus point of the league.

There is an inherent bias towards Liverpool, but theres a reason for it. They essentially have the most supporters (along with manchester United) so bring in the most money. It's pragmatism of the league. However if there arises an issue that causes greater financial difficulties than annoying Liverpool, then it's easy to see what wins out.

If you were advising the league, you would be quite clear and see the easiest thing will be to cancel the league and void it. It's not without it's problems, but it's actually quite difficult to argue from a legal perspective. Has any runner sued Athletics because of a false start in a race having to be re run? Most bookmakers will not pay out on title winners this season, and will say the results are only valid if the competition is completed etc etc.

The competition rules are quite clear, you keep the squad you have in August, minus a 1 month grace period in January. If we wanted to re-start the season in August, what happens to the transfer window? What happens with players contracts? What happens if clubs massively strengthen their 11?

In a legal court, these are the sort of black and white issues that will be brought out. It would be very easy for a lawyer for say Bournemouth to point out, not only has the approach been wholly inconsistent, but such a solution goes against the rules of the competition. The PL would likely lose such a case and may have to start re-instating teams. It's like pandoras box, the more you delve into this, the harder it becomes. Each answer present 2 more questions.

When push comes to shove, I can only really see Liverpool wanting to start awarding places based upon 28/9 games. I can see a number of clubs wanting to repeat the season (the bottom 6 for one) and we are led to believe Tottenham too. The others will vacilate. But Liverpool have got to do a lot of relationship building in order to get this across the line. If an agreement was in place that European football was based upon the current standings I can easily see how you start to get to the 12 teams you need to just void the season.
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Do you think mate that will be the eventual outcome or your not sure?
 

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