MrGrumpy
Player Valuation: £50m
Point is it’s not a under 23 teams that everyone believes it was, they all played in the 1st team this season
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sandman77
Player Valuation: £750k
Fun fact:
Average age of Liverpool in the cup match was 24.6 years.
United today against city had an average age of 24.1
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You are so desperate to absolve Ancelotti of all responsibility, aren’t you?
Milner played for 6 mins. Ox played for barely 20. How you can say a £7m Japanese player from the Austrian league would be a definite starter for us based on an hour of Football is madness.
That leaves their 2nd string, Origi, Lallana, Gomez and West Ham’s 3rd choice GK in net. That shouldn’t be enough to beat what was essentially our 1st choice lineup bar Gomes should it?
They had 6 kids in Williams, Phillips, Chirivella, Larouci, Elliott and Jones that hadn’t started a 1st team game before. They shouldn’t have beat us. Ancelotti MUST take some of the blame.
He sets us up. He picks the team. He picks the formation. He motivates them and sends them out to play his way. And he had them for more than a couple of weeks worth of training and 2 matches before the derby. It’s not like it was his 1st game.
Give it up, mate, it’s a weak argument.
VIlla put five past them.....
He was injured after only 6 minutes or so.......
Need to stop looking backwards Joey, swerve that old pictures thread and embrace the future, the past is the past.
Exactly. The headlines of a "full strength" Everton being beaten by their "kids" fits the agenda better.
Fact of the matter was, our players ran for cover, basically giving the RS the game on a plate.
Nar bruv, we got beat by their kids, sure they had a few first-teamers bobbing around, but it was mostly kids, theres no dressing it up.
Yeah. No dressing it up. Tranmere's kids could have beaten us, the way we gave up that second half. I just hate the way these kids of theirs are being promoted like something special, when really it was our "team" of no marks that made them look good.
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
Of course to an extent but Carlo also said he hasn't been able to train properly because of the amount of games we have had the players have been resting between games. Now some of these players have been utter failures under multiple managers and need to go. Ancelotti is the most decorated manager we have ever had and he's been in two weeks. He isn't the main problem
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
Exactly.They are mentally weak. They never came back from being behind in twenty plus games that is a mentality issue. Any pressure we fold the narrative was Liverpool had the rezzies out and most of them were and as soon as we were under pressure we folded. It's a mentality from the top to the bottom with a lack of leaders on the field. See also the terrible away record we have at the biggest grounds going back twenty years. Dunc wrung everything out of the players for Chelsea and we were under no pressure the following games we deteriorated under him because tactically he's a bit naive. Then the players revert to gutless type. Carlo needs to decide some of these players are not good enough here and now and work on a structure for those he will take forward add some this window and the next.
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The future is the future.....my little grasshopper....
not even close to the same teams - go and look at the lineup that played Villa and compare to the one that played us.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't have smashed them, but to say they are the same is just factually inaccurate
Gareth Gibson
Player Valuation: £8m
Bang on.
ProZ
Player Valuation: £40m
Stop thinking so short term mate, dunc had also lost the dressing room by the arsenal game.
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