Again time scales. Wyness is stating a fact we annot stay at Goodison as it is for a length of time. We can obviously stay at Goodison in the interim as we are at the moment. You are an intellegent guy- surely you can understand this?
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GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
That's not the point mate. The point is BK has said that we will stay at GP if we have to. But Wyness is saying 2-3 years, maybe less, and we will fail safety checks. So they must have a backup plan. But they don't appear to have one.
Ok, think of it like this. Manuel Fernandes was coming to the club, all sorted. He [Poor language removed] us over, so we are left without a player of his calibre, and it then becomes too late to do anything about it.
So if/when the Kirkby Project falls through what are they going to do? That is what concerns me. Plus, if they say well we will have to do something at Everton, than why don't they concentrate on that instead of pushing Kirkby. Someone as Blue as BK should be moving heaven and earth to remain at Goodison instead of hiding behind Wyness and his so-called experts.
SuitsBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
kirkby postcode is L32
liverpool postcode is L32
keioc regurgitate a croc of [Poor language removed] every time.
this asda thing is a bit of a worry, its been presented on the sly, i wonder if tesco and asda are about to throw down for the big battle of the supermarkets on kirkbys doorstep.
liverpool postcode is L32
keioc regurgitate a croc of [Poor language removed] every time.
this asda thing is a bit of a worry, its been presented on the sly, i wonder if tesco and asda are about to throw down for the big battle of the supermarkets on kirkbys doorstep.
SuitsBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
dont think your being entirely fair ghost, you nor i can speak for 3 years into the future, the soundbite in the summer was £500k a year to maintain the steel structure of goodison and its only becoming a larger figure.
can the kirkby project fall through now? im not sure it can, it appears too late in the day to renege on this course of action.
all this talk of plan A and plan B, staying at goodison is no plan, its a continuation of the current problem.
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
So your saying this.
1. The Kirkby Project is already done and dusted, nothing can stop it.
2. There is no plan B.
Is that what your saying?
What I really dont understand about all this is that I see it very straight forward.
Goodison has been looked at and looked at to redevelop not just by this regime but by others in the past. The funds do not stack up- this is a fact.
Kirkby is a deliverable project that is being offset by Tesco - This is a fact.
If Kirkby falls through we will have no other option but to stay at Goodison in the mean time- This is a fact.
We would then have to hope that either more money or another way arises (squeeky bum time in my eyes) to develop Goodison. This to me is resting on our laurels and just hoping that something else comes along.
Goodison has been looked at and looked at to redevelop not just by this regime but by others in the past. The funds do not stack up- this is a fact.
Kirkby is a deliverable project that is being offset by Tesco - This is a fact.
If Kirkby falls through we will have no other option but to stay at Goodison in the mean time- This is a fact.
We would then have to hope that either more money or another way arises (squeeky bum time in my eyes) to develop Goodison. This to me is resting on our laurels and just hoping that something else comes along.
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
That's what I am saying. The KP is out of our hands, if ASDA gazump Tesco's then nothing we can do. So the fact that the club are so sure of this that they don't need to have a backup plan really concerns me.
SuitsBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
1. I BELIEVE the club has put all its eggs into the kirkby basket.
that is no guarantee that local council or national government are on side with our AND tescos plans.
2. I BELIEVE there is no plan 'B'
(**note** huge forum lags, im signing out because im going to go 'postal' very shortly)
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Yeah, its the snow I tell you. 
So this is what has worried me, that we are relying on one thing to occur without thinking about other options as viable choices.
So this is what has worried me, that we are relying on one thing to occur without thinking about other options as viable choices.
Assuming its the same planning department that decide on the Asda thing as decided to give the land to the club in the first place I'd be amazed if the verdict went against us. Failing that Kenright could always give Labour a few pence, presumably via one D.Dean or someone to grease the wheels.
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Well from what I have heard, they are not giving the land to the club, they are giving it to Tesco's who are giving it to us.
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Anyway, thats my opinion. I think we need to be careful what we do if it all goes tits up. Which given our track record, it may well do.
Right, off for a swim to chill.
Laters.
Right, off for a swim to chill.
Laters.
A lot of 'what if's' are involved Ghost. What if it all falls through for the [Poor language removed] in Stanley Park, what if Kirkby falls into the River Tiber.
The club have hired experts to build plans with a view to executing those plans, unlike KEIOC paying somebody to say the loop is cheap and feasable.
The club have hired experts to build plans with a view to executing those plans, unlike KEIOC paying somebody to say the loop is cheap and feasable.
monty
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Totally agree Mick, who the hell would want a revamped GP holding 40,000 sited in the shadow of the shites new near 75,000 stadium, it is total and complete nonsense. We have a host of idiots allowing their hearts to rule their heads. Why oh why are we regurgitating all this [Poor language removed] again:angry:
a2b chris
Player Valuation: £15m
fed up of plan b talk
are you saying that X amount of pounds spent on kirkby should be also spent on Plan B
personally, my understanding of the chairmans words were ' if kirkby fails, were back to the start again'
1) we were offered kirkby (Fact)
2) the board looked at deal offered (Fact)
3) the board liked the deal offered (Fact)
4) the board decided to invest money to see if kirkby could become reality (fact)
5) plans b, c ,d whatever would have to pass along these points (fact)
if you or anyone can provide the answers to those below i would gladly listen
1) Location
2) business plan
3) financial plan
have we got £1-20m to waste on plan B, when it may never be required?
can understand some of your worrys, but not your apparant unwillingness to not offer any solutions. thinking you just might like to disagree at times for the hell of it.
keep on disagreeing by all means, but offer alternatives
are you saying that X amount of pounds spent on kirkby should be also spent on Plan B
personally, my understanding of the chairmans words were ' if kirkby fails, were back to the start again'
1) we were offered kirkby (Fact)
2) the board looked at deal offered (Fact)
3) the board liked the deal offered (Fact)
4) the board decided to invest money to see if kirkby could become reality (fact)
5) plans b, c ,d whatever would have to pass along these points (fact)
if you or anyone can provide the answers to those below i would gladly listen
1) Location
2) business plan
3) financial plan
have we got £1-20m to waste on plan B, when it may never be required?
can understand some of your worrys, but not your apparant unwillingness to not offer any solutions. thinking you just might like to disagree at times for the hell of it.
keep on disagreeing by all means, but offer alternatives
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