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Hes 1 game away from the sack mate, of course he isnt willing.
I dont just mean now, I mean in the past.
I didnt say we dont and have never, I said currently, under Silva.
Why not mention Wayne Rooney?
Rooney and Barkley, they were spoken about for years before they turned 17.
DanEFC92
Player Valuation: £90m
It's not like the ol' reliables are doing the job. Reckon a bit of gamble like playing a yoof or 2 would bring him some good will from supporters. Playing same plodders every week is just sleepwalking into the sack.
But Brands didnt get a CB in the summer.
I think at that point not many thought, well we have Lewis Gibson, just froth, lots of froth.
LocalNative
MOSHIRI OUT
I'd have start him of Keane this weekend. Not lie. Won't happen though cause Marco is literally fighting for his future here so will stick with Keane.
Same with Gordon, i'd have him in the squad at the very least.
Same with Gordon, i'd have him in the squad at the very least.
....other than Barkley and Osman, I can’t think of any Academy players who went on to play 50 games for us after a loan. History shows it doesn’t work for us, indeed our best youngsters come straight into the first team set-up.
Regardless, I don’t believe this has anything to do with Gibson’s position. He has progressed through the ranks, was given captaincy of U23s at a young age and promoted to the first team ranks this season. His contract is up this summer, so sending him on loan would have effectively been saying goodbye to him.
The indication (to me) is that he wants to cash in on his status. I don’t blame him for that, he’ll pocket a very sizeable figure if he moves in the summer.
As anybody who reads the youth thread knows, i’ve been highlighting this lad for a long time. I’ve also been posting concerns about his contract situation. It’s looking increasingly like he’s rejecting any offers from the club and for that reason alone I wouldn’t be in a rush to give him game time.
Billysgingham.
Player Valuation: £40m
Someone needs to check their facts me thinks.....again.
I presume you mean me?
When I present something as a fact, it will say the word fact.
Everything else is just my viewpoint, thats how forums work, people post their opinions.
Ive often commented that im wrong 99% of the time, im ok with that, I wont change my opinion.
Billysgingham.
Player Valuation: £40m
Opinion and Fact are a little different..think on.
You've just named two of the successful academy graduates right there.
How many "best youngsrters come straight into the first team set-up" can you point to? Rooney aside, I'd argue every one should have been sent on loan as part of their development - Tom Davies in particular.
I'll always maintain League One is better for any Everton youngster than the U23 League. The reformatting of the reserve league killed that level - only the other day we had Unsworth talking about how Ellis Simms needs to now learn "real football".
Take Liverpool. They've had Harry Wilson loaned out to Crewe, Hull, Derby, Bournemouth. He has been learning "real football" - we'd have kept him winning trophies with David Unsworth.
Or.....
The club don't get into that contract situation in the first place and agree a deal/pathway for his development.
Languishing around in Everton's U23s is no good for him - he'd be right to move.
Lazy allegation that.
He left Newcastle for Everton for the right reasons, like he'll leave Everton for the right reasons. His career/to play football.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Billysgingham.
Player Valuation: £40m
But there never the less.
MercuryBlue88
Player Valuation: £6m
Wrote it without fully explaining myself. I dont see any youngsters from our u23's closer to the first team now than they were under Koeman. The majority have stagnated or regressed. The pathway to our first team is being blocked by journeymen. Even the likes of Davies, has gone backwards unable to kick a ball in anger, while we have a midfield injury crisis. Kept out by a player with no future at the club. The likes of Walcott and tosun have had more minutes than any youth.
Ive spoken in the past about creating a pathway to the first team.
Its currently very difficult when we have wage thieves like Niasse and others hanging around taking up space.
Im sure Brands plan for the future involves less rubbish and vastly more yoots, but sadly this transfer ban will set us back a few years.
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
I'm convinced that these Premier League academies are just tax scams. The only players that ever get anywhere are the ones that would have made it no matter what, while the rest are still struggling to control the ball mid-stride at 16/17.
City spend millions upon millions on theirs, and yet can't produce so much as a basic head the ball centre-back to fill in for six weeks.
City spend millions upon millions on theirs, and yet can't produce so much as a basic head the ball centre-back to fill in for six weeks.
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