2019/20 Marcel Brands

[davek]

It’s not working because Moshiri has insisted on picking the managers first and then getting in a DOF, instead of the other way round. It doesn’t help that the first guy he picked wasn’t even a DOF! I think there’s massive question marks over Moshiri’s judgement in footballing matters.

Regardless of Walsh or Brands - the instability is baked into the dual control over the team. That's how we get £500M spent on tripe in three seasons.

It's a system that needs dumping. If we had another owner the first move they'd make is to employ a manager with complete control. This carpetbagger is clueless.

 

[Lelouch]

disrespecting the man who brought us Lucas Digne? could never be me

 

[Nymzee]

Stick to supporting Energy drink teams and leave Everton to the true fans.

Brands has to take some responsibility for this season and how its going.

Good post mate needs more dragons.

 

[Goat]

Regardless of Walsh or Brands - the instability is baked into the dual control over the team. That's how we get £500M spent on tripe in three seasons.

It's a system that needs dumping. If we had another owner the first move they'd make is to employ a manager with complete control. This carpetbagger is clueless.

95% of the top teams in the world have a DoF.

 

[BlueStevie35]

DOF role: it doesn't work for this club. Not needed. Scrap it. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. It's cost us half a billion quid since it was introduced and we've been through a handful of managers, destabilising the club and costing more cash.

Scrap it. It's wrecking this club. It's bankrupting it and putting us in danger. Sack Brands and sack Silva if need be. Then hire a manager with sole control.

This is not working. No plan, no accountability, no way to run this club.

Would you trust Silva choosing his own players?

 

[Groucho]

How?

Well see now he is in charge of hiring and firing managers. This is where he earns his keep.

 

[davek]

95% of the top teams in the world have a DoF.

That may be true, but:

1/ they need one because the role of coach is all encompassing for a team studded with stars. Elite clubs are vast, we're not.
2/ the DoF isn't monolothic, the dynamic can be more in favour of the coach having final say. We dont have that. The Dutch tool has first and final say over players.

 

[GwladysPhil]

Well see now he is in charge of hiring and firing managers. This is where he earns his keep.

Is he? Didn't know that, biggest decision of his career if so.

Sure I read somewhere he said he was a big fan of Silva.

 

[davek]

Would you trust Silva choosing his own players?

More so than working with players he doesn't want. ANY manager is best employed as sole controller of the footy side.

 

[Goat]

That may be true, but:

1/ they need one because the role of coach is all encompassing for a team studded with stars. Elite clubs are vast, we're not.
2/ the DoF isn't monolothic, the dynamic can be more in favour of the coach having final say. We dont have that. The Dutch tool has first and final say over players.

1. Marco Silva has worked with a DoF all his managerial career, he knows nothing else.
2. Silva and Brands decide on the players, seems how Richarlison is now utter tosh, he was clearly a Silva choice.



I can play your game Dave, but better.

 

[GwladysPhil]

That may be true, but:

1/ they need one because the role of coach is all encompassing for a team studded with stars. Elite clubs are vast, we're not.
2/ the DoF isn't monolothic, the dynamic can be more in favour of the coach having final say. We dont have that. The Dutch tool has first and final say over players.

You're right in a sense, it's a new strategy for Everton and I feel that Brands has too much power, wasn't he promoted to the board too?

 

[davek]

1. Marco Silva has worked with a DoF all his managerial career, he knows nothing else.
2. Silva and Brands decide on the players, seems how Richarlison is now utter tosh, he was clearly a Silva choice.



I can play your game Dave, but better.

That was a no brainer...although Brands overpaid for him.

It's not needed the DoF role. Tell me we'd have wasted half a billion on this crap under a manager like Moyes, for one.

 

[davek]

You're right in a sense, it's a new strategy for Everton and I feel that Brands has too much power, wasn't he promoted to the board too?

Yep.

He has all the power and takes none of the stick when it goes wrong.

 

[Goat]

That was a no brainer...although Brands overpaid for him.

It's not needed the DoF role. Tell me we'd have wasted half a billion on this crap under a manager like Moyes, for one.

Tell me United wouldnt have wasted 500m in 18months under Jose if they had 1.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Brands did not choose this manager. So Silva not cutting it is in no way on him and is actually a deeper problem as he will have a philosophy that is not necessarily shared by the manager.

Also as best I can tell Brands signings are for the most part our better players. The people who most desperately need replacing to me are Coleman, Keane and Sigurdsson. In terms of getting better players in I think he's slowly getting there. If he has similar ability to pick a manager I expect we will be in better hands to begin next season.