Transfer Rumour Zaha with poll

[Toffeelover]

If the latest position is true (who knows?)
My take, from a Palace perspective, is this;
1. Wilf wants to go.
2. He and his advisors have been told he can go for £80m
3. No one has offered £80m. It could reasonably be argued that £65m plus Tosun and McCarthy is equal to or greater than £80m but we would (a) sooner have the cash or (b) keep Wilf.
4. Paying £80m cash now is too late. Plus everyone will know we have £80m (less 25% to Man. U.)
5. I doubt whether Wilf will kick off about it. He will want to keep the impression of a good pro (which he is) and either in January, depending on our start, or at the end of the season, he will be off. Palace will sell at some point. I think his peak value won't last too much longer.
6.The £80m was the price at which Palace hoped no one would pay.

Still, two days left. Anything could happen.
Wilf; stop playing with my head ffs.

Arsenal walked away at that price, says it all for me.

 

[dublinbluenose]

I honestly think the delay is making sure he doesn't play against them this weekend

I doubt he would play if we sign him, will have had virtually no time with the team

 

[phil_t98]

I doubt he would play if we sign him, will have had virtually no time with the team

also not had anytime with palace. apparently he only came back yesterday which seems a bit mad

 

[Tubey]

If the latest position is true (who knows?)
My take, from a Palace perspective, is this;
1. Wilf wants to go.
2. He and his advisors have been told he can go for £80m
3. No one has offered £80m. It could reasonably be argued that £65m plus Tosun and McCarthy is equal to or greater than £80m but we would (a) sooner have the cash or (b) keep Wilf.
4. Paying £80m cash now is too late. Plus everyone will know we have £80m (less 25% to Man. U.)
5. I doubt whether Wilf will kick off about it. He will want to keep the impression of a good pro (which he is) and either in January, depending on our start, or at the end of the season, he will be off. Palace will sell at some point. I think his peak value won't last too much longer.
6.The £80m was the price at which Palace hoped no one would pay.

Still, two days left. Anything could happen.
Wilf; stop playing with my head ffs.

Thing is though, why would you rather have the cash?

If we just paid £80m, you owe 25% to United, which would be £20m, taking the amount to £60m. Taking £65m and the players nets you £47m, meaning you get Tosun and McCarthy combined for £13m.

If your club wants those two players, reducing the cash amount is a no brainer really.

 

[Blue_Berry]

If it gets done it will no doubt be for more than 65m but less than 80m. These things generally tend to meet in the middle somewhere.

You have to question why palace would have told him he could leave. Seems a very strange one when he just signed a new contract.

In all likelihood they knew last year that he'd want to leave soon, so they were just securing themselves with a big transfer fee by offering him a new contract. And that is why now they can ask for £80m...

 

[Thomasc]

Arsenal walked away at that price, says it all for me.

Yet they signed an unproven PL player from the inferior French league for 72m, does that say anything to you?

 

[dublinbluenose]

Yet they signed an unproven PL player from the inferior French league for 72m, does that say anything to you?

They're not paying the 72m upfront, Palace want it all up front

 

[Alan Whittle]

Thing is though, why would you rather have the cash?

If we just paid £80m, you owe 25% to United, which would be £20m, taking the amount to £60m. Taking £65m and the players nets you £47m, meaning you get Tosun and McCarthy combined for £13m.

If your club wants those two players, reducing the cash amount is a no brainer really.

We only say we want it in cash because we don't expect anyone to pay it! We want Wilf to stay, particularly after selling AWB.

 

[blue4eva77]

If the latest position is true (who knows?)
My take, from a Palace perspective, is this;
1. Wilf wants to go.
2. He and his advisors have been told he can go for £80m
3. No one has offered £80m. It could reasonably be argued that £65m plus Tosun and McCarthy is equal to or greater than £80m but we would (a) sooner have the cash or (b) keep Wilf.
4. Paying £80m cash now is too late. Plus everyone will know we have £80m (less 25% to Man. U.)
5. I doubt whether Wilf will kick off about it. He will want to keep the impression of a good pro (which he is) and either in January, depending on our start, or at the end of the season, he will be off. Palace will sell at some point. I think his peak value won't last too much longer.
6.The £80m was the price at which Palace hoped no one would pay.

Still, two days left. Anything could happen.
Wilf; stop playing with my head ffs.

If he stays, which is most likely going to happen with it being so late in the window.....Where is his head at ? You now have a player who has said he wants to leave and he is pulling on a shirt each week that he doesn't really want to. Even with a fully focused, raring to go, happy Zaha, Palace are still likely to be fighting down at the bottom end. Its a dangerous game.

 

[aazak]

Like I said on a previous post - who?

They seem to have a genuine interest in McCarthy. If Zaha leaves late, they should want to bring in at least one of a striker and a winger. Fair enough, I can't see them wanting Niasse or Kev, but Tosun may fit the bill for a striker role (and they were reportedly interested before). Also Theo's reputation isn't as bad everywhere else as it is here.
As to whether any of the players would agree, who knows.

 

[Alan Whittle]

also not had anytime with palace. apparently he only came back yesterday which seems a bit mad

I think that is a mandatory break after an international tournament. 3 weeks?
He won't play for either of us this weekend.

 

[Tubey]

We only say we want it in cash because we don't expect anyone to pay it! We want Wilf to stay, particularly after selling AWB.

To be honest, there's more value in honouring your commitment to sell the player if he wants to go, like we have done over the years and even this year with Gana.

Otherwise you develop the reputation of being a quagmire for young talent who can't progress.

You've told Zaha he can go - so let him go. I understand it'll relegate you if you do, so it's not quite as straightforward as it seems, but that's poor management from the club - they should have been actively selling him earlier and bringing in others.

 

[sir_christoffee]

We only say we want it in cash because we don't expect anyone to pay it! We want Wilf to stay, particularly after selling AWB.

It's the art of negotiation demand the world then settle for slightly less. It will be done at around 70M.

 

[Arteta10]

To be honest, there's more value in honouring your commitment to sell the player if he wants to go, like we have done over the years and even this year with Gana.

Otherwise you develop the reputation of being a quagmire for young talent who can't progress.

You've told Zaha he can go - so let him go. I understand it'll relegate you if you do, so it's not quite as straightforward as it seems, but that's poor management from the club - they should have been actively selling him earlier and bringing in others.

Giggity

 

[Toffeelover]

They seem to have a genuine interest in McCarthy. If Zaha leaves late, they should want to bring in at least one of a striker and a winger. Fair enough, I can't see them wanting Niasse or Kev, but Tosun may fit the bill for a striker role (and they were reportedly interested before). Also Theo's reputation isn't as bad everywhere else as it is here.
As to whether any of the players would agree, who knows.

That is the $64,000 question. If it worked good biz for us getting a better player in and offloading two pieces of deadwood perhaps if we throw in Besic?