Toffe3m4n
Player Valuation: £80m
Holt is an utter moron. There's a reason why most people hate him.
ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2
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Holt is an utter moron. There's a reason why most people hate him.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
Don't get me wrong - I would like to see Everton compete in and win this competition. However even if we did it would not bring me the same feeling of greatness and joy that winning the cup-winners cup brought in the 80s. I will explain why.
It's a micky mouse cup because it is now a diluted product simply designed to acquire cash from a bigger, maximised pool of supporters and fans. The European Cup was the pinnacle club competition in Europe - one which the rs won 4 times - good on them the vermin. To win that first you had to be champions, then you had to beat other champions.
However to maximise revenue the cherished competition was then opened up to include swathes of runners up. Now, as has been demonstrated, you can be 'called' champions by not having actually been a champion in 30 years, and beating a team that hasn't been a champion in nearly 60 years. Furthermore, in the process of getting to the runners up final you can actually be beaten.... A few times. Of course this keeps certain brands on show and maximises revenue.
It's the equivalent of saying - take an toen's intra-schools sports event. Rather than selecting the best runner in each school to compete, why not let everybody have a go and charge them each £1 entry. 5p goes in printing the participation certificate, 5p towards the winners, and the rest to the organisers.
If you can't see that this has become a micky mouse competition behind a facade of media hype (the same Murdoch media that profits, script writes and manipulates it) with the explicit aim not of sporting greatness, but of diverting vast swathes of hard earned money from the fans towards Murdich's empire, with his handsomely paid mercenaries, then i can recommend some interesting reading. Just google the story "the emperor's new clothes.'
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The bent ref gives them a gift wrapped CL win in their first attack and it was never going to be any other way from then on.
I didn't watch the game and never will, just like I never watched their 2005 win and never will.
They are what they are: a club that should never be in existence. My conscience is clear. I support a football club that's just a football club. I could never in all honesty follow a football club that has also caused so much death, pain and misery to others. No matter how many trophies they win that stain never leaves them.
A terrible night for us; a terrible period ahead enduring them and their media arse-lickers praising a team that really isn't all that. But we know we get these every so often and have to endure it. That's just the way it is. The difficult part is and has been for three decades handling their major wins when our own football club let us down. They offer no solace because we're so amateurishly run. We cant hit back and rub their noses in our success from time to time.
As the days pass by though I'll remember that that 'kin lot still - after 30 years - have failed to win the title, and that the European Cup really was the big shiny consolation prize (the big day out in the sun) for a shower of media whores who feel no shame about their history.
I didn't watch the game and never will, just like I never watched their 2005 win and never will.
They are what they are: a club that should never be in existence. My conscience is clear. I support a football club that's just a football club. I could never in all honesty follow a football club that has also caused so much death, pain and misery to others. No matter how many trophies they win that stain never leaves them.
A terrible night for us; a terrible period ahead enduring them and their media arse-lickers praising a team that really isn't all that. But we know we get these every so often and have to endure it. That's just the way it is. The difficult part is and has been for three decades handling their major wins when our own football club let us down. They offer no solace because we're so amateurishly run. We cant hit back and rub their noses in our success from time to time.
As the days pass by though I'll remember that that 'kin lot still - after 30 years - have failed to win the title, and that the European Cup really was the big shiny consolation prize (the big day out in the sun) for a shower of media whores who feel no shame about their history.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
it's just sport at the end of the day and for some reason their fans have some weird fetish where it actually is their life. Imagine being on your death bed and someone asks you what you accomplished in your life.
Ah, never had time to accomplish anything or have a family. i was too busy writing weird poems and watching endless content of videos, podcasts and blogs about liverpool haha
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
Never forget
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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yes.
All fans have those people, however, Liverpool's variation is distinct in this respect: you feel like their devotion is also a cover for the burying of obscenities in their history. If they inform everyone - and persuade them - that it means more to them, then (implicitly) what's happened in their past is asking be seen in that context.. In other words: it covers a multitude of acts and sins committed - and that's why they persuade others that it "means more".
Johnniepk
Player Valuation: £8m
I watched it and had some faint hope of Spurs giving them a game at the very least. Within 28 seconds it's all over. What other team would get a penalty in such circumstances. I reckon Mane was playing for it as well. He spent the first 20 minutes falling over in every challenge before he cottoned on the ref was not joining in any more.
I understand VAR was not used. The 4th official agreed so no need. In a game like this and so early on that decision is mind boggling. I know I am biased but that was never a penalty and it changed the game and destroyed my hope.
Watching it we were saying that we could give either of them a game.
Champions League, you are having a laugh.
I understand VAR was not used. The 4th official agreed so no need. In a game like this and so early on that decision is mind boggling. I know I am biased but that was never a penalty and it changed the game and destroyed my hope.
Watching it we were saying that we could give either of them a game.
Champions League, you are having a laugh.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
Warms me this.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
we did give liverpool a game last time we played them
...that's why they lost the league haha
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
just now, when i was looking for the video i've just posted, a linked video was of a wedding in asia somewhere, liverpool themed with everyone dressed in liverpool kits, YNWA as their entrance music. Like seriously, wtf is wrong with their fans?! It's a football club, not a cult.
Methuselah
Player Valuation: £35m
From purely a football perspective, it was the worst final in living memory.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Liverpool in the last 30 years aren't a proper big club in the sense that a big club dominates, like United did or Chelsea did for a while and now City do. They are a big club because they as an organisation have used a narrative to reach out to far flung markets that goes beyond appealing to modern period football success. It's a maudlin narrative that's used tragedy and re-birth (and, of course, the odd piece of silverware thrown in to keep the pot boiling). That's how they've succeeded in pulling a lot of people around the globe into their orbit. Of course, being in the PL helps too. No one would give a flying one for any team doing what they';ve done if they were playing in the Bundesliga. So...
British colonial outreach + tragic history + rebirth = gullible third world fanbase.
Yeah. A hearty congrats on that one.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
They pry on vulnerable, as I say, a large majority of people I know who 'support' them, don't even know what a football is. United are the only club similar, but I can have conversations with a lot of occasional united fans.
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