Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
As much as I agree with you I'll have to sadly decline your kind offer
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Zatara
Player Valuation: £90m
Hed walk into our team
On stilts.
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
I see the classic ‘he’s not even that good’ shouts have come up now he might not be staying.
He’s a fantastic player and we should do whatever we can to get him.
He’s a fantastic player and we should do whatever we can to get him.
Fansince1988
Player Valuation: £40m
If they lose the final the feel good buzz will be deflated . Getting the the final is nothing if you don’t win it, in a way it can set you back. Much the same if them lot don’t win the league, having amassed that number of points and still losing, some would think what’s the point.
He's like Dembele was for Spurs. Defensively, not that great. Final 3rd, not that great. But in the middle he's damn close to world class.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £90m
Youre saying Gomes is close to world class...or Dembele ?
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
The narrative that Gomes is a playmaker is not a fact. It’s quite the opposite and that’s the point.
I also was around in the 80s and I bet you if Opta was doing the same thing then, all three of those players, ESPECIALLY Sheedy would’ve looked just as good statistically. Stats are not random, good players don’t look bad statistically. Playmakers actually make plays and those plays usually measurable. So stop this absurd idea that I wouldn’t like a good player because their numbers would be bad, because that’s literally impossible and a complete misinterpretation of how stats are used by sports teams. The only critique is whether or not the model makes sense. The model = what makes a good player and how it’s measure. Now if you want to argue that I value defensive contributions too much in a central midfielder, fine.
To apply that to Gomes, I believe he’s good in possession, can go by guys with the ball, spray long passes to help with our build up, etc. I can also see with my eyes how Gomes gets bypassed in midfield. It’s painfully obvious to me. I can see that he’s a step slow. I can see how he fouls as a result. The numbers simply validate what any educated eye should be seeing. Providing evidence to back that up isn’t some terrible sin against the beautiful game.
bring the ghost on
Player Valuation: £35m
Stats serve a purpose and clubs will spend money whenever there is a possibility to get a competitive advantage. However, over reliance on stats is a big problem in the modern game, something which Steve Walsh (and others) have personified.
Re Gomes, there is clearly a reason Barca wanted him when he was playing well for Valencia and there is a reason Spurs want him now. His stats may not show that he scores goals and gets assists, but anyone who watches him play can see that he helps massively in the transition from defence to attack. If you manage a team which wants to play football from the back, he's a huge asset.
Stats are only useful if you know how to read them.
When he signs shall we sack brands and silva because you know best
Both really. In the middle of the park they are/were just both amazing. In the other 2/3, not so much.
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
You wouldn’t have either anywhere near your fantasy football teams but football is more than just goals and assist stats.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
Which isn't always easy. Player performance can involve lots of variables across leagues, teams/tactics, etc.
For it to be valuable, I think you need to know what you value in a player overall, in certain roles, positions, etc. Then you need to understand how to even measure and then capture those things that you value. That varies club by club and tactic by tactic.
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