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4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Will be MOTM on Sunday, calling it now
Can remember 3 against RS two in the 3-3 , can remember him at WHL scoring , man city , arsenal at home and away that’s 6 straight off the top of my head . 2 against Chelsea in the fa cup game , that’s without really thinking about it
Scored 13 goals against spurs, arse, Chelsea , RS , city
2 of them were against Chelsea in the cup and 1 against arsenal.. so yeah I don’t know where people “ make this stuff up”
What’s that a barometer of
Let me get this right... you're saying that a twenty-two year old player isn't actually the finished article yet and could actually still improve as a player?
Stop talking sense, it's not allowed on here!
Did you miss the bit where top 6 = league? The goals to games is in the league......hence top 6.
Would it help if I include the cup? It may make the reading a little less awful maybe. Why? Do you think he's got a good record vs top 6? I know for a fact it isn't.
Top six? I just listed the goals he scored and it was more than 5. You said he scored 5 in 36 in the league against them. I said that wasn’t correct ... it isn’t so I was correct.
He scored 13 goals in all comps against them and 10 in the league . That’s not 5 is it?
So I’m assuming that your 36 apps figure is correct and if it is that means he has a goal ratio of 3.6 games per goal in the league and 13 in 38 in all comps , that’s under 3 games to a goal against the best teams in the legue, that’s still better than dcl’s goal ratio playing against crap teams.
Why are you going on about DCL's goals when I'm not even making the case for DCL being a clinical finisher? I've spent a shed load of posts campaigningbthat the lad has an all round game that benefits his team mates and that other feted players have done so without being prolific.
Lukaku was brought up as his only contribution to a team is goalscoring... of which I made the point that he's a flat track bully.
So..... onto the 5 in 36..... here they are ....
In the 2014/15 campaign, Lukaku scored 10 Premier League goals, however, none came against a big six club. Then, the following season, he scored 18 league goals but just once against the aforementioned sides. In his last season, Lukaku stuck 25 times for Everton, with only four finding the elite teams' net.
5 in 36 against the top 6 premier league teams. Averaging 1 in 7.2 prem league games. Best check things before calling someone wrong.
Why £75m Lukaku is good move for Man Utd
Romelu Lukaku was mooted for a return to Premier League champions Chelsea until Manchester United made their move. But why is he so sought after?
www.bbc.co.uk
Half way down the page if you want to read it. And please..... don't try and say I never said it wasn't prem games.... you even quoted me where I had said it.
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This argument always amuses me. The one about scoring against the top 6.
I reckon every striker in the league scores less goals against them than the other sides. Numerically, its obvious, and thats before you factor in the fact they will have better defenders, a manager will probably set up to nick one on the counter, and they will almost certainly have more of the ball.
Lukaku is a good goal scorer. In a team playing to his strengths/strength. DCL could well be, given time and coaching. He is a better footballer than Rom was, so I would prefer to work with him to polish off his obvious talent to include more goals.
I reckon every striker in the league scores less goals against them than the other sides. Numerically, its obvious, and thats before you factor in the fact they will have better defenders, a manager will probably set up to nick one on the counter, and they will almost certainly have more of the ball.
Lukaku is a good goal scorer. In a team playing to his strengths/strength. DCL could well be, given time and coaching. He is a better footballer than Rom was, so I would prefer to work with him to polish off his obvious talent to include more goals.
Less goals against top 6 understandable. Going from 1 in 2 to 1 in 7 not so understandable.....
Vardy doesnt seem to have a problem with it..... he scored 19 in 37 vs lukakus 5 in 36 over the same time for Leicester.....
Steven Naismith always seemed to be up for the challenge against the better sides...... lukaku got his 5 in 36 cos
1. He never fancied it
2. He doesn't do well against half decent defenders
3. he struggles with expectation.... big game bottler.
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Dominic Calvert-Lewin: I want to be up with Harry Kane and Sergio Agüero – I can set world alight
Dominic Calvert-Lewin has been discussing dealing with doubt and expectation when he neatly sums up the life of a striker and the unrelenting scrutiny that comes as an accompaniment.Talk has turned from the extra aggression that he has injected into his displays for Everton and on to the improvement
www.thetimes.co.uk
Dominic Calvert-Lewin: I want to be up with Harry Kane and Sergio Agüero – I can set world alight
Dominic Calvert-Lewin has won the faith of his manager at Everton and is discovering his physical potential, but the young forward tells Paul Joyce there will always be those who doubt
Paul Joyce, Northern Football Correspondent
April 19 2019, 6:00pm, The Times
Calvert-Lewin has earned the trust of Silva, the Everton manager, this season
Dominic Calvert-Lewin has been discussing dealing with doubt and expectation when he neatly sums up the life of a striker and the unrelenting scrutiny that comes as an accompaniment.
Talk has turned from the extra aggression that he has injected into his displays for Everton and on to the improvement in his performances after time spent with Marco Silva, his manager, on the training pitch — yet the clamour for more has not been quelled by his obvious development.
“At the moment, a lot of people are saying, ‘He doesn’t score enough goals’ or ‘Can he add goals to his game?’ but, for me, I have come a long way from when I first came into the side,” he says. “Back then people were saying, ‘Well, he can’t hold the ball up and he can’t do this.’
“I am doing those things now, so there is always going to be something. If I get to 15 goals people will want 20 and then they will want 25. I just see it as another challenge in my career.”
It is a burden with which Calvert-Lewin seems at ease. Sunday’s game at home to Manchester United should mark his 90th appearance for Everton, which is a significant number given that he made his debut in December 2016, aged 19, after a £1.5 million move from Sheffield United, and has had to develop in the spotlight of the Premier League.
Calvert-Lewin, who is now 22, scored the only goal when England Under-20 beat Venezuela to win the World Cup in 2017.
At times, it has felt that the forward has been overexposed at Everton. The sales of leading scorers Romelu Lukaku and Wayne Rooney in successive summers, coupled with Everton’s failure to replace them, opened a pathway for Calvert-Lewin, but also brought pressure.
Leading the line for a club lacking stability on and off the pitch must have felt like an ordeal, especially on those days when a heavy defeat and a cantankerous crowd made for a brutal combination? Calvert-Lewin shakes his head in disagreement.
Calvert-Lewin has scored only eight goals this season but is happy with the way his game is developing
“What a position to be in,” he says. “I never ever felt sorry for myself. All I want to be is the No 9 leading the line, and for me to be in that position maybe a little earlier than I should have been — I was just revelling in that opportunity. The way I saw it was the more I got exposed, the more experience I got and the better I was going to get.
“You go through different stages of transition. You have to earn the respect of your team-mates and win the fans over, and your manager. There are certain stepping stones and it has taken a while for me to get there but I have been listening and learning the whole time. I think now I have kind of pieced all of my experiences together and things are falling into place.”
The point about commanding the trust of those he works with — and for — is key. Silva had offered Calvert-Lewin a launchpad at the start of the season — he started four times in September — and then withdrew it. Between October and January he started sparingly, but he has become one of Silva’s go-to forwards, starting Everton’s past seven games.
He has turned in some swashbuckling displays to justify that faith, swatting Chelsea defenders aside in the 2-0 victory at Goodison Park, and then harassing Arsenal’s rearguard in a 1-0 win.
Calvert-Lewin says that there has been no eureka moment, crediting instead Duncan Ferguson, the first-team coach, and David Unsworth, the under-23 manager, for helping him to channel his potential — and offering an insight into Silva’s methods.
“It has not been so much learning to be aggressive, but learning what my body is capable of,” he says. “And learning that I can bully people and move people around. This season I am starting to realise my physical capabilities.
“My concentration levels have definitely had to increase in a game and in certain other scenarios. So, for example, taking more of a lead on set pieces and being more vocal, growing into the role and accepting more responsibility.
“The manager has done a lot of out of possession work with me in training. He has helped me with my positional play and the finer details which has made the game a lot easier for me.
“I have always covered ground in games, but it is about how I can be more efficient and get in better goalscoring positions.”
Calvert-Lewin clipping the post with a chance in the untimely 2-0 defeat by Fulham last weekend demonstrated the margins at this level and denied him a ninth goal of the campaign. He is confident of increasing his output.
Growing up in Sheffield, a few streets away from the Leicester City striker Jamie Vardy, as it turns out, he would score “50 in a season, ridiculous amounts” for Handsworth Boys and was a goalscoring midfielder back then. Although he believes that the goals will come naturally, the search for an edge continues. He watches videos of striking luminaries in an effort to find the minutiae that could make a difference.
“As a young boy, and even now, I would watch past strikers like Thierry Henry, Didier Drogba and I watched Diego Costa when he had that unbelievable season at Chelsea. You have Sergio Agüero and Harry Kane.
“I want to be alongside them, competing with them, and it would be daft of me not to take notice of what they are doing. It is what they do before they actually receive the ball, and the positions they pick up before you can even see the chance. Defenders are so quick these days you have to give yourself the best chance of getting half a yard to get in first.”
The repercussions of not doing so are clear. While the Everton director of football, Marcel Brands, also believes in Calvert-Lewin, the threat of reinforcements being recruited lingers. Calvert-Lewin ends as he began: discussing doubt and expectation.
“I always think that, no matter how you do, when you are at a club like Everton there is always going to be someone who there is interest in, who might come in or will come in,” he says.
“If you put your attention to something that has not even happened yet, how can you put full focus into what you are doing in the here and now? I have an opportunity now which I want to take and it is an important time for me in my career and my future at Everton.
“I always believe that in the next game I will set the world alight. When I do put all the pieces together, and I do start hitting the back of the net, then I am on a good course.”
I agree, England cap looming.
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