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OneTrueLegend said:
It does not say that 9 English teams can be in europe
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Yes it does :

"If a season ever occurred when English teams won the Champions League and Europa League - and neither of them qualified for Europe through the league - there would be NINE Premier League teams in Europe (five in the Champions League and four in the Europa League). "

Not sure if it's right but thats what it says.
 
Seamus Colemole said:
Yes it does :

"If a season ever occurred when English teams won the Champions League and Europa League - and neither of them qualified for Europe through the league - there would be NINE Premier League teams in Europe (five in the Champions League and four in the Europa League). "

Not sure if it's right but thats what it says.
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I prefer to take the word of the actual Premier League website myself.

The maximum numbers of English teams in UEFA competitions is seven.

https://www.premierleague.com/european-qualification-explained
 
MarcelsGoat said:
I prefer to take the word of the actual Premier League website myself.

The maximum numbers of English teams in UEFA competitions is seven.

https://www.premierleague.com/european-qualification-explained
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That doesn't explain what happens if English teams win the Cl and EL but finish outside the Euro places in the league though.

But like you i thought the max teams we could have in Europe was 7, so assumed if for instance Man U win the CL and Arsenal win the EL but finish 8th and 9th then they go into the CL next season, as do the top 3, then the 2 EL places go to whoever the FA decide. 4th place and FA cup winners i guess if FA cup winners haven't already qualifed, if they have than it goes to EFL winners if they haven't already qualified, if they have than it goes to 5th place.

I can understand thinking 8 teams in Europe if we kept the 3 in CL from the league + the 2 Euro winners + the 3 EL qualifiers. But where they get 9 meaning an extra team in the EL i don't know.
 

Seamus Colemole said:
That doesn't explain what happens if English teams win the Cl and EL but finish outside the Euro places in the league though.

But like you i thought the max teams we could have in Europe was 7, so assumed if for instance Man U win the CL and Arsenal win the EL but finish 8th and 9th then they go into the CL next season, as do the top 3, then the 2 EL places go to whoever the FA decide. 4th place and FA cup winners i guess if FA cup winners haven't already qualifed, if they have than it goes to EFL winners if they haven't already qualified, if they have than it goes to 5th place.

I can understand thinking 8 teams in Europe if we kept the 3 in CL from the league + the 2 Euro winners + the 3 EL qualifiers. But where they get 9 meaning an extra team in the EL i don't know.
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Its very confusing.

But im almost certain they have made a terrible error.
 
If English teams win both the CL and EL and both those teams finish outside the top 4 then only the first 3 would qualify for the CL
The 2 Europa spots would be taken by the League cup and FA cup winners
If one of the top 3 or the RL or CL winners has won one of those cups then 4 place gets Europa
If 2 of the cups are won by teams who qualify for the CL win the league cup and the FA cup then 4 th and 5 th place get EL
7 teams in Europe maximum
 
MarcelsGoat said:
Its very confusing.

But im almost certain they have made a terrible error.
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Wikipedia says this though :

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Also from that season, if English clubs win both the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, and neither finish the Premier League in a position that qualifies them for the UEFA Champions League, the following will happen:
  • The club that won the UEFA Champions League will go straight into the group stage
  • The UEFA Europa League winners will go into the UEFA Champions League group stage
  • The club that finished fourth in the Premier League will transfer into the UEFA Europa League
Doesn't mention how many teams in total one counrty can have so if 2 English teams winning the CL and EL but finish outside the Euro places in the league happens they might make an exception and drop the 7 teams max rule.

Meaning top 3 + CL and EL winners go into the CL, 4th place and the 2 cup winners go into the EL unless the cup winners have already qualified via league placing then the last 2 EL places go to 5th and 6th.

So i could see 8 teams in Europe but god knows where they get 4 in the Europa from
 
Newcastle winning is good for us but still worry about Wolves game in hand - think they'll just edge us however a draw at saints tomorrow and a win for us gives us a small chance.
 


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