I agree, you also need to take into account the extremes we see on the forum, truth is always somewhere in between. Thankfully our good start put us a tad out of reach.
Quite a way out of reach actually when you look at it.
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I agree, you also need to take into account the extremes we see on the forum, truth is always somewhere in between. Thankfully our good start put us a tad out of reach.
They may well have had genuine concerns, but they weren't grounded in anything approaching reality. Even if you take out recent points, and pretend we'd lost 7 games on the bounce, giving us a record of only winning 3 of our last 18 league games, we'd still be in a relatively comfortable situation.You may not have but some had genuine concerns, tempered only by the fact there are most definitely 3 teams worse than us and another 7 as inconsistent but I can understand peoples concern, we had bottom3 form since december.
They may well have had genuine concerns, but they weren't grounded in anything approaching reality. Even if you take out recent points, and pretend we'd lost 7 games on the bounce, giving us a record of only winning 3 of our last 18 league games, we'd still be in a relatively comfortable situation.
Quite a way out of reach actually when you look at it.
Yeah, 40 points is a massive tally haha you must be so proud,they've done it with 7 whole games to spare, what a season.
So because at one point we were only 4 points above a team who had at one stage been - but no longer were - concerned about relegation, we were in danger of going down? That's like saying you nearly drowned once because you walked along a beach just a few metres up from where the water once got to when the tide came in.A couple of weeks ago, we were 4 points above toon, a team scrapping relegation all season, of course people were worried, no matter how realistic the probability was. We have been utterly awful but our good start has made it look a lot easier than it looked for some. Thankfully as you both say the season is over 38 games and over that course, even with 7 left, we've reached the golden 40, wow, what a season. my original point was just a jest at the vaulting, hindsight is wonderful.
?? I said we’re way out of reach of the relegation zone, because we are. And you’re on here saying people were right to be worried about relegation.
People were worried where points were coming from prior to that 17 day break, some teams below were picking points up but have since fallen back into losing streaks but it was closer than you care to admit obviously.
They may well have had genuine concerns, but they weren't grounded in anything approaching reality. Even if you take out recent points, and pretend we'd lost 7 games on the bounce, giving us a record of only winning 3 of our last 18 league games, we'd still be in a relatively comfortable situation.
So because at one point we were only 4 points above a team who had at one stage been - but no longer were - concerned about relegation, we were in danger of going down? That's like saying you nearly drowned once because you walked along a beach just a few metres up from where the water once got to when the tide came in.
My point is that yes hindsight is wonderful, but so are pampers if you're that way inclined.
No it wasn’t because people were banking on teams like Cardiff, Burnley and Southampton all winning 3 or 4 on the bounce which doesn’t happen because they’re crap.
Burnley went on a very good run, cardiff even picked up a few extra points, all of them down there were taking points off each other making our run more comfortable. Maybe relegation was never in question but the form we had shown was bottom of the pile stuff, why shouldn't other fans be concerned given that fact.
Well the problem with that is that foresight is even better. If anyone actually genuinely thought that we would go on a 12 game winless run despite not having done anything like that previously, and 5 or 6 other teams who were picking up less than a point a game would suddenly start putting good runs together, then their fears weren't grounded in reality. Obviously it wasn't absolutely impossible (it still isn't, technically) but there was really nothing at all to suggest that it was going to happen. The same thing happened last year, people saying we were the worst team in the league when we were about 10th and winning virtually every home game.Problem is everything is easier in hindsight. Cardiff up until that point had looked a far harder to beat side than the one that rolled over and had it's belly tickled. Had they turned up and beat us then we go into the derby with more pressure, on another day Salah scores and we could have lost. At this point the other sides are getting closer and we would be on a horrible run. Who knows what our players would be like if it came to the crunch like that. I don't think anyone lauds the mentality of our squad.
Once we won at Cardiff and drew at home it was obvious that we would be ok, you could even take positives from the Newcastle game before we folded. But my point is on fine details it can and could have easily swung the other way.
Yes to the contrary. It's not a difficult concept. The point was that Southampton need to better our tally by 10 points. They have 12 games in which to do that. You've just posted a table that shows from their last 12 games they have been getting more points than us, but only by 5. So half the difference they would need to make up. I'm not saying it's impossible by any means, but it's not likely, and your own table shows why.
7 games left of a dreadful season but if Silva can get the players to turn up and focus for 7 more weeks then we still have a decent shot at Europe.
West Ham A
Arsenal H
Fulham A
Man Utd H
Palace A
Burnley H
Spurs A