David Moyes interview.

[Papa Shango]

His best teams would absolutely wipe the floor with us now. Imagine prime Arteta Pienaar Cahill Donovan Fellaini with Yakubu Baines Lescott etc. up against the likes of Schneiderlin Gueye Davies Keane Kenny. Would be embarassing.

It would be 0-0.

 

[polish]

Fun story: he made me appear in a polish TV news after it was official that he’s taking over at United lol

I was speaking on behalf of polish Everton fans and it was aired on whole country.

So thanks for memories Dave

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

It's mad isn't it? It's like the past 5-6 years have not happened. He is basically seen as a joke these days. Our expectations are too high for a manager like him these days.

He is seen as a joke due to the Man Utd agenda - if they can pin everything on Moyes it excuses the mismanagement of the club by the Glazers, Woodward and the messiah himself, Sir Alex, who let the team grow old.

 

[thebluenosebolt]

But that's based on moyes from several years ago, hes been an absolute disaster since and has shown football has well and truly past him by

Maybe, But ours is certainly still at his level, christ Pienaar, Arteta and Felli would run rings around what we are doing today and that was years ago....with him in charge.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Maybe, But ours is certainly still at his level, christ Pienaar, Arteta and Felli would run rings around what we are doing today and that was years ago....with him in charge.

Imagine how much Arteta would be worth in today’s market! Signed for absolute button. Moyes was good enough in the market that it made a Director Of Football an unnecessary extra wage. And you never had the situation where the coach can complain about the signed players as he did it himself.

 

[Papa Shango]

He is seen as a joke due to the Man Utd agenda - if they can pin everything on Moyes it excuses the mismanagement of the club by the Glazers, Woodward and the messiah himself, Sir Alex, who let the team grow old.

Nah, he failed at Sociedad, failed at Sunderland and barely existed at West Ham. He was a good young manager once, he is yesterdays news now. His appeal in the past was that he was a bit different to your normal manager, that's not the case any more as he seems to have joined the footballing dinosaurs. It happens eventually I suppose but he is finished.

 

[Pootsy]

Is this the interview when he admits being tapped up by SAF while shopping in Jeans with his missus?

 

[Agent Blue]

Speak for yourself mate!

The fact he was here so long made his actions after leaving worse.

He did some good, of course he did, he also seems to have inflicted us with this never ending feeling of negativity.

We have not really been in a mess as such since he left, we have been a place or two lower in the league (the big 4 is now the big 6 too so we are pretty much par the course) and still won bugger all.

The Champions League/Europa debacle after we finished 4th sums him up to me. So close yet also a million miles away.

To say we have not really been in a mess since he left, for me, is well wide of the mark.
I have supported Everton since the Gordon Lee years and cannot remember witnessing such dire footbal and financial profligacy than since the latter part of Martinez' first season up until BFS left.

You are right about the CL debacle but you have to remember that ultimately we couldn't play champagne football on a brown ale budget, just the fact that we managed it was an achievement something that subsequent and better funded managers have failed to do.

I liked Moyes as a manager because of how well he spent the budget, we even went a couple of summers??? without buying any players, but he pissed on his chips with the "I had no inkling about the United job", getting paid by us but effectively being manager of United and the ultimate betrayal of the Baines and Fellaini fiasco although he did have his trousers pulled down over the Fellaini fee which was rather satisfying.

 

[Papa Shango]

To say we have not really been in a mess since he left, for me, is well wide of the mark.
I have supported Everton since the Gordon Lee years and cannot remember witnessing such dire footbal and financial profligacy than since the latter part of Martinez' first season up until BFS left.

You are right about the CL debacle but you have to remember that ultimately we couldn't play champagne football on a brown ale budget, just the fact that we managed it was an achievement something that subsequent and better funded managers have failed to do.

I liked Moyes as a manager because of how well he spent the budget, we even went a couple of summers??? without buying any players, but he pissed on his chips with the "I had no inkling about the United job", getting paid by us but effectively being manager of United and the ultimate betrayal of the Baines and Fellaini fiasco although he did have his trousers pulled down over the Fellaini fee which was rather satisfying.

We are in as much of a mess as we want to believe we are. For me we are midtable also rans, some seasons we may become the best of the rest only to fall off again the next year as we cant compete (for some reason) with the extra competition. We generally do well at home (one season aside) get beat by the big boys and mess up when any opportunity comes our way.

We have been like this for about 25 years.

What exactly did he achieve by coming 4th? We did not qualify for the Champions League, we go to a qualifier which we of course lost, then we got knocked out of the Europa at the first time of asking in humiliating fashion.

We may not have spent a lot of money (he wasted the times we did have some cash like) but we did pay good wages, wages that were par for where we we finishing in the league.

He was fine. That's all.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

We are in as much of a mess as we want to believe we are. For me we are midtable also rans, some seasons we may become the best of the rest only to fall off again the next year as we cant compete (for some reason) with the extra competition. We generally do well at home (one season aside) get beat by the big boys and mess up when any opportunity comes our way.

We have been like this for about 25 years.

What exactly did he achieve by coming 4th? We did not qualify for the Champions League, we go to a qualifier which we of course lost, then we got knocked out of the Europa at the first time of asking in humiliating fashion.

We may not have spent a lot of money (he wasted the times we did have some cash like) but we did pay good wages, wages that were par for where we we finishing in the league.

He was fine. That's all.

He was terrible with money, with his record signing Fellaini proving to be another woeful addition to the squad....

 

[Number_25]

He was terrible with money, with his record signing Fellaini proving to be another woeful addition to the squad....

What?

 

[Papa Shango]

He was terrible with money, with his record signing Fellaini proving to be another woeful addition to the squad....

He signed him twice and won nothing either time.

And no the charity shield does not count.

 

[Lanolin]

We are in as much of a mess as we want to believe we are. For me we are midtable also rans, some seasons we may become the best of the rest only to fall off again the next year as we cant compete (for some reason) with the extra competition. We generally do well at home (one season aside) get beat by the big boys and mess up when any opportunity comes our way.

We have been like this for about 25 years.

What exactly did he achieve by coming 4th? We did not qualify for the Champions League, we go to a qualifier which we of course lost, then we got knocked out of the Europa at the first time of asking in humiliating fashion.

We may not have spent a lot of money (he wasted the times we did have some cash like) but we did pay good wages, wages that were par for where we we finishing in the league.

He was fine. That's all.

That's not really true though is it? In Moyes's last season we were 10th on the wage table and finished 6th in the actual table. That's not even close to being 'par'. You then have to factor in that a side splashing out £40m in transfer fees and then having a £60m wage bill is spending a lot more than a side who pays out £10m in transfers and has a £65m wage bill. So you can't just look at the wage bill in isolation and say we were finishing we should be, even if the positions in the table did correlate.

 

[sageyefc]

He was terrible with money, with his record signing Fellaini proving to be another woeful addition to the squad....

Remember when he almost bankrupted Sunderland by signing such superstars as ndong for ridiculous amounts of money

 

[Ruairi77]

He was terrible with money, with his record signing Fellaini proving to be another woeful addition to the squad....

not sure if you're being sarcastic. I thought Fellaini was a great player (overall), yea, a bit clumsy but I loved that day he ran the midfield against City or playing further up front against united at goodison. He'd have been the ideal player to throw on against Southampton the other night. And we sold him for twice what we paid.