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Said at the start of the season that we'd be screwed over royally by inept officiating all because of VAR not being brought in. There does seem to be some weird obsession that this top 6 must be maintained. I know we're not showing it but we are the main threat to that top 6 but we are an easy touch, it's clear to see.

VAR being brought in may not have made a difference, but we're getting hit with some rotten decisions this season and wtf is our club doing about it? Mourinho would be hounding the point forward how we're being unfairly treated if he was our boss.

Some of these may have been the right decisions, but there's no doubt they've all been debatable and have gone a long way to derailing our season.

Wolves - jags' early red card and then the massive error with the positioning of the free kick.
Bournemouth - a very very soft red card and then a pathetically soft penalty against, something which was replicated on tosun and ignored in our favour.
West ham - masuaku's high boot to the face which should have been red.
Arsenal - a dreadful offside decision which ended the contest.

I mean we've only played a handful of games ffs, and it does seem that Bournemouth pen has already had a massive effect. We would have been on more points than what we're on now had it been not given like so many instances like that do.

Obviously we have our own inadequacies but why don't we actually stand up to this crap because it seems to be a constant hindrance to our seasons.
 
Said at the start of the season that we'd be screwed over royally by inept officiating all because of VAR not being brought in. There does seem to be some weird obsession that this top 6 must be maintained. I know we're not showing it but we are the main threat to that top 6 but we are an easy touch, it's clear to see.

VAR being brought in may not have made a difference, but we're getting hit with some rotten decisions this season and wtf is our club doing about it? Mourinho would be hounding the point forward how we're being unfairly treated if he was our boss.

Some of these may have been the right decisions, but there's no doubt they've all been debatable and have gone a long way to derailing our season.

Wolves - jags' early red card and then the massive error with the positioning of the free kick.
Bournemouth - a very very soft red card and then a pathetically soft penalty against, something which was replicated on tosun and ignored in our favour.
West ham - masuaku's high boot to the face which should have been red.
Arsenal - a dreadful offside decision which ended the contest.

I mean we've only played a handful of games ffs, and it does seem that Bournemouth pen has already had a massive effect. We would have been on more points than what we're on now had it been not given like so many instances like that do.

Obviously we have our own inadequacies but why don't we actually stand up to this crap because it seems to be a constant hindrance to our seasons.

If there had been VAR today Arsenal would have had a penalty before they scored, when Gana dragged one of their man back by the arm.

There was nowt soft about Richarlison’s red card at Bournemouth....he moved his head toward the face of an opposition player and that is a red card offence.

Rashford went for doing the exact same thing a week later.

It was stupidity on behalf of both players.....not bad officiating.

And the penalty Baines gave away was both blatant and daft.
 
Yes, you can.

Liverpool do it constantly.

A team has possession. The opposition press high, win the ball back, and then spring forward - that's a counter-attack. You don't have to sit deep to counter, or it doesn't have to be from a deep position.

We're far better as a counter-attacking side than a possession-based side atm, because we don't currently have a player in midfield who dictates the game.

We showed our quality on the counter (with the pace of Walcott, DCL and Richarlison) today, and it should have paid off, but we didn't finish the chances.

In the second half we had more of the ball but did less with it because we lack the players to play that way.

How was Silva's execution poor? We created two golden chances that we missed. Therefore, the tactics worked. The players didn't finish the chances of.

Good defence and a rapid skillfill front line?

We’ve cracked the code
 
Tactics worked for the most part? He cant make players make easy decisons, are players are bottlers and always will be

Home to palace or somethin walcott probs rounds the goalie and dcl squares to rich but there all bottlers and its deeply rooted in the current squad

I dont no what the answer is though

Rich,digne,pickford dont seem bottlers rest all are...
 

If there had been VAR today Arsenal would have had a penalty before they scored, when Gana dragged one of their man back by the arm.

There was nowt soft about Richarlison’s red card at Bournemouth....he moved his head toward the face of an opposition player and that is a red card offence.

Rashford went for doing the exact same thing a week later.

It was stupidity on behalf of both players.....not bad officiating.

And the penalty Baines gave away was both blatant and daft.

Your opinion yes and I said that some were arguably the right decisions. I was mahjong the point that they were all debatable and could have all been given in our favour. We round be slitting so pretty of they were and they are decisions the top 6 get going their way more often than not. Main reason being because they don't sit up about the bad 50/50 decisions that don't go their way. I just hate the accepting mentality our club has. Said it to death about niasse wtf are we doing being happy to be effed over like that when the rest of the league is on a different playing field?
 
Yes, you can.

Liverpool do it constantly.

A team has possession. The opposition press high, win the ball back, and then spring forward - that's a counter-attack. You don't have to sit deep to counter, or it doesn't have to be from a deep position.

We're far better as a counter-attacking side than a possession-based side atm, because we don't currently have a player in midfield who dictates the game.

We showed our quality on the counter (with the pace of Walcott, DCL and Richarlison) today, and it should have paid off, but we didn't finish the chances.

In the second half we had more of the ball but did less with it because we lack the players to play that way.

How was Silva's execution poor? We created two golden chances that we missed. Therefore, the tactics worked. The players didn't finish the chances of.
You might want to read up on a couple of tactics manuals.
But very briefly, a team that presses high was Guardiola's Barcelona for example.
I think your referring to DCL and Rico doing a lot of running around putting pressure on the backs. They succeeded at times in reducing the options so as to make it more easy for us to put pressure on the players receiving the passes, and they also succeeded in putting enough pressure on for the passes not to be pin point. And yes that helped us play better up to a point, better than at times in previous games, but there was still a lot of problems to do with what else was going on as part of that pattern of play.
But anyways, this is not a high press because the range of pressure is over too large an area.

Or you might be referring to when after a counter or build up, we lost the ball, and won it back using a high press - the attack following this is not called a counter.

The poor execution referred to is not having sufficient and effective cover even though Silva appeared to be playing a more direct counter attacking game.
To get caught out the way we did, playing these tactics, is just not on.
The system of play we ended up with was a bit of a mess, caught in between the counter and the tactics he has generally been using.
It should have been more than 2 if Arsenal were any good.
Hazard and Chelsea would have had a field day against us. Didn't watch it but they obviously came up against a better defence than ours today.
 
I don't think or want Silva to be sacked, I'm bloody hoping he can sort out the mess and start building properly.
But as it stands, the criticism is warranted and a lot of posts defending him for his performances must be oblivious to what is going on.
He is without a doubt struggling at the moment.
You can say the players are crap, but that is not an excuse for him.
And I'd seriously question whether they are as bad as a lot of people are making out.
Put this side together better, playing the right tactics, providing the right sort of leadership, he should be able to get them playing in a much better way.

Defence is where you start to build.
He appears to have made ground with his zonal marking but little else.
You cant just wait for Mina to come, you want to actually have Mina dropping into something already organised.
So what are the strengths.
Well four pretty good wing backs with a good mix of experience and youth. So you use that.
It means your going to be vulnerable in areas so address that before anything else.
Silva should have known from previous seasons that the current defensive/centre midfield - which addresses the vulnerability of the wing backs - is not good enough to play 4-2-3-1. It leaves too many gaps because they can be pulled out of position. The only way he could persist with it is if he had two wingers run their bollocks off to keep them more central (Kuyt, Milner for eg), or have the 10 drop often (Cahill), but most importantly, have two CM who are good with the ball to keep possession. You would have to be confident to have at least 65% possession and very good organisation without the ball. Its a very difficult system to play and it is certainly not something you should try and build with, at the very least without world class, experience players in the CM positions (Toure, De Jong). You need a solid core of good players who understand each other and have played together for a while. Even if you play a flat back four you need this type of quality to build from. But Silva know he doesn't have these types of players.

People who are saying, well we got beaten by a howler from Lacazette, have a look at the initial cross that came in, it was 4v4. Not a midfielder in sight, no pressure on two central attackers in loads of space. This is the reason for the goal. And its the reason for only having 6 points.

Silva continues to persist with Sig at 10 in this system. Its one of the major reasons why the are massive distances between the lines, which when we lose the ball makes the team extremely vulnerable. He is much better in space. Yet the 10 in this system, (not so much in 4-4-1 or 4-5-1 or counter 4-4-2) needs to be able to hold on to the ball to allow time and movement not just for the overloads in attack but to allow for the team to close the distance between the lines behind him, so they are not as vulnerable into transition without the ball.
This problem puts massive pressure on the CMs and they inevitably won't be able to sort this all the time. A lot of the times the wing backs have been exposed starts with the CM not being able to respond to transition from Sig losing the ball or playing a poor pass under pressure.
Silva needs to use a system that sees Sig thrive or drop him, he refuses to do either, seemingly content to have an impotent central attacking option.

It looks to me as if Silva cannot see how to play to the squads strengths and is looking at the squad through the lens of a glass half empty, sticking to something (not sure what that is) and relying on the players in hope that it will come together; rather than making decisons that need to be made.

Kenny has really impressed. A young Seamus if you like, performing under more difficult circumstances. With Digne they provide drive from deep and width in the overload. Given Digne is better on the ball and Kenny is better in defence it makes sense the overall setup sees the left higher and right deeper.
To balance that Gana seems the natural player to cover Digne. He was outstanding against Arsenal in this regard. If Digne and Rico can get the best out of him on the ball, it may come to be one of the best right field combinations in the league. If not, it'll do for this season.

Bernard's cameo showed just what we've been lacking. On the left, he hunted down everything, received or won ball in tight spaces and was better on it than any other midfielder this season. It was unfortunate the lack of options he had were not equal to his play. It makes a lot of sense to mirror Kenny and Bernard on on the right with Gana and Digne on the left. It would rule out Bernard in the 10 and LW positions but the side would gain from better cover and better quality build up play. Once Gomes becomes available Bernard would hopefully have developed a pattern, consistency and quality of play that he can drop into.
Davies for all the intent and effort does not offer the levels of quality Gana and Bernard offer. He is a bench player who has the potential to improve. Silva just needs to make this decision and be at peace with it (and stop messing around with the captaincy)

The two CBs are fairly straightforward - Keane and Mina with Zouma as back up. Holgate is a reasonable option on the right if Silva decides to go with three CBs, and not the worst as 4th back-up, if not.

The real challenge for Silva is can he get his head around playing a 3rd midfielder, thereby sacrificing a front three or playing a false 9 instead of a 10.
There is no way round this with the strengths and weaknesses of the squad. It either that or the dreaded 5/3/2.
There is only one player, Schneiderlin that can play it (or Gana with Davies to the left). And I'd argue in that role where he is not doing the work of Gana or Bernard, he would be more confident. With the two of them working their bollocks off he can play to his strengths which is to distribute. He will have more confidence in playing to Bernard and Digne (using Gana to cover) than Davies and Gana, so less of the crabbing and back passes. He's got a better long ball than the other midfielders and in the six position will have the space to use it effectively. He gives the team an out when Bernard or Gana need to play back.
All Silva has to do is coach him into developing a good combination with Mina and Keane.

If he can get the best out of Sneiderlin in that position he have made it difficult for sides to beat us. Go to the transfer window and see what happens from there.
He should be able to do something decent with 3 out Rico, Walcott, Lookman, Tosun DCL and Dowell based on what's around them. And probably needs to convince the powers to get Vlasic back if nothing else.

If you have a look at all these chances we are meant to be creating, how many of them are coming from the deck with the exception of Ricarlison. There mostly crosses and yes, more should of been put away, but its classic low to mid table stuff.

Ultimately he should stop standing on the sidelines looking at the players as if they are letting him down and do something about it. Even with what he's got, he should be doing better. Only 6 games in is not an excuse and there no use pointing to the first half as a good performance when your set up to fail.
 
Silva did fine today other than select DCL. The team is still getting used to his tactics, but at least he realized that Davies and Gana have to play. Davies wasn’t good enough on the ball, but it allowed Gana to play in his most natural position and showed how good he is. Plus, it dropped Schneiderlin out of the side, which makes all the difference in the world to this team. Hopefully Gomes gets back soon and we can move Schneiderlin in January and get a true box to box player unless Gomes is healthy and killing it.
 

Arsenal's goals had nothing to do with our full-backs pressing high, though

We did ping the ball around quick. For the first 10 minutes of the second half we were camped on the edge of their box.

Arsenal second goal has everything to do with our fullback out of position.
Zouma had no reason to be at that part of the pitch surrounded by 3 Arsenal players while attempting an awkward clearance. The most alarming part is Zouma losing possession and the only player left to defend is Kenny, 1 v 3. The area Zouma loses the ball is suppose to be cover by Digne and Keane should be covering for Zouma. The whole defensive setup is wrong, naive and suicidal.

We play our best football this season when we counter attack. Playing football at the edge of the opponent penalty area is the most ineffective and vulnerable approach we can use. Due to the fact that we are not Creative and lack of craft to break a bank of 4, and almost every attack results in hopeful crosses nothing else while on the other hand very vulnerable to counter attack because we keep passing and every pass we made increase the chance of losing the ball in awkward position.

I question the manager on why we’re not playing to our strength with the players that is available to us.
 
You’ve got to give this fella time to implement his style and philosophy on the team and the club. There hasn’t yet been a settled team and a number of important signings haven’t yet featured prominently, some not at all.

What I will say, is that barring the West Ham game and failing to break down Huddersfield, the performances have been encouraging. They’re much much better than anything we saw last season especially away from Goodison.

The results haven’t matched the performances YET, but I’m confident they soon will.
 

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