VAR

[McBain]

Its pretty clear to me that if you think thats careless you’ve never made a tackle in your life.

 

[McBain]

That's rubbish - people being annoyed about it being given is irrelevant.

Oh sorry for being annoyed about the minnows who should have been smashed losing the game with a sketchy call.

Apologies for soiling your forum. Fool.

 

[Mozza1987]

I don't believe he won the ball as Griezmann took another touch and the fact that he can't stop moving implies he has lost full control which could be defined as careless. A trip during a careless tackle is a foul - Rule 12.

He touched the ball which means he won it. How has he lost control? If you tackle someone when sliding you can’t just stop. It’s physically impossible. In that case every slide tackle would be a foul because you say they would be out of control because they can’t stop moving and take the man as well. Football is becoming an utter joke when it comes to tackling.

 

[mccole]

VAR has come in purely to stop cheats and divers at the highest level so I am happy for the playing field to be leveled.

It isn't clear cut but it is early days with VAR.

 

[barneygumble]

VAR would be effective if they stopped the clock for it.

Don't have to stop the clock for anything else, but for VAR.

That Penalty for France yesterday going to VAR two minutes later was an absolute joke. Farcical even.

 

[macdog]

Greasy took a dive and was lucky that there was contact, albeit minimal. He was going down no matter what and the situation went his way. I also thought Messi dived - another one who went down like a shot dog. Great to see him miss the pen; suck on that you diving cheating scum.

 

[ClausThomsen]

Its pretty clear to me that if you think thats careless you’ve never made a tackle in your life.

A tackle in the professional game? No. A tackle in a junior league or pub match? Plenty of times with good, bad, careless and downright reckless. Quite what any of that has to do with the VAR decision is again completely irrelevant. Sliding in and tripping someone can easily be construed as careless within the laws of the game.

Careless is different to reckless or violent.

He touched the ball which means he won it. How has he lost control? If you tackle someone when sliding you can’t just stop. It’s physically impossible. In that case every slide tackle would be a foul because you say they would be out of control because they can’t stop moving and take the man as well. Football is becoming an utter joke when it comes to tackling.

It's not the sliding element that causes the foul. Risdon slides from behind and trips Griezmann. Touching the ball does not cancel out a foul. The ball running through to the keeper or going out of play does not cancel out a foul.

My argument is not about the rule, or in support of the rule, but instead about whether the correct decision was made according to the rule.

Personally I do think it's a very soft penalty. Risdon has done well to recover but he has tripped Griezmann and those are the rules.

Took another touch or had the ball taken off him due to Risden getting in there first? Griezman has no control of that ball at all.

Your interpretation of it is flawed.

Mine, the refs, those in the VAR room and plenty of others apparently.

 

[kenada_blue]

Saps the life out of a game for me.

Don't care how fast they get it to review clips. Every goal has a pause to review, games can just stop to review, and for the most part it's still comes down to opinion

 

[Moomin]

Totally for it.

We get the right decisions in the end, the Griezmann penalty proves it worth. At first i thought he dived and it was no pen but after the replays it was clearly a pen.

 

[Toast]

Why are the video refs wearing a full kit whilst watching the telly though ?

 

[Azzurri]

Its pretty clear to me that if you think thats careless you’ve never made a tackle in your life.

You’re right mate. I think it was a penalty so have never, ever played football.

 

[Azzurri]

In a group of pundits consisting of Ferdinand, Lineker, Drogba, Evra and Fabregas, Phil Neville and Mark Lawrenson were the only ones who thought it wasn’t a penalty.

Make of that what you will.

 

[kenada_blue]

No VAR for the Hernandez incident?

Arguably same amount of contact as the French one

 

[wilfjacko]

Why are the video refs wearing a full kit whilst watching the telly though ?

Must be RS fans

 

[roydo]

Why are the video refs wearing a full kit whilst watching the telly though ?

Collino wanted them to. Reckons it would make them feel like a match ref. The tit.