PSV Playing Style

[Maltese_Falcon]

Now im no expert in european football, so im not sure of the make up of most teams if im really honest, but going off wiki pages, I know and using this list, lets see :

Top 10 European clubs by 'enterprise value'

• Manchester United - €3.255bn
• Real Madrid - €2.92bn
• Barcelona - €2.78bn
• Bayern Munich - €2.55bn
• Manchester City - €2.16bn
• Arsenal - €2.10bn
• Chelsea - €1.76bn
• Liverpool - €1.58bn
• Juventus - €1.30bn
• Tottenham - €1.29bn

Utd, I think we all agree that Jose does what he wants
Real, doesnt Perez sign ALL the players? So not a DoF as such, but whilst im sure the manager has input, Perez is King
Barca, Almost certain the manager has no say
Bayern, Hasan Salihamidžić Sporting director
City, Tixi
Arse, Wenger certainly did it all his own way, but think they have just changed their model to DoF
Chelsea, Conte doesnt have a say at all, as he keeps saying
Liverpool, Klopp does what he wants
Juve, honestly no idea here
Spurs, I know Spurs did follow the DoF route at 1 point, not sure at all how it works under Poch

So out of the 10 clubs, from my very uneducated view, 6 clubs have a DoF, 2 defo dont and 2 are unknown to me.

Italian clubs all have a Director of Football ( Direttore Sportivo) , i always remember it that way

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Brands' opening statement on joining makes clear he has a true European DoF role with full football authority, a massive change from Walsh who was a puffed up Chief Scout. Silva/ANO will be a Head Coach NOT a manager in the traditional British style. A good DoF build close relationships with his HC and works hand in glove with them but the DoF is the senior partner as he is the continuity and he has the long-term strategy/vision.

The DoF sets over-arching football parameters (e.g. is the Everton-way 4-4-2/4-2-3-1/4-3-3/5-4-1...tiki-taka vs. hoofball, high press vs. counter-punch). He also controls training facilities, support staff/medical/sports science and longer-term permanent coaching positions e.g. academy, coaching succession planning. In addition the DoF controls transfer policy e.g. target player ages for first team, valuations, attributes/player types from youth to first team.

The Head Coach is recommended by the DoF (not by the owner/Board) and is expected to fit broadly within the approach set out for the club as a whole by the DoF. The HC has some control over his staff but not total as the DoF may well insist on retaining some staff/succession planning/continuity. The HC controls how to organise training, select teams, motivate/get the most out of the players provided within the broad scheme/ethos set by the DoF. If the HC wants to make significant changes in style and/or target different types of player then this is discussed with the DoF who either agrees, in which case those changes are flowed through the whole structure from youth to first team, or disagrees in which case the HC either accepts and gets on with it or is replaced.

We need to forget everything we think a "manager" does/should do and adapt to this new reality. Of course Silva will have some influence on transfers (positions/attributes he wants) and some ability to tinker with tactics (e.g. varying style/formation during a season for different games) but the overall strategy/ethos, approach and player acquisition/sale decisions rest with Brands who is arguably the single most important figure in the football success of this rebooted Moshiri Everton.

Then this may be behind the delay in a managerial appointment?

 

[Samandsam]

Now im no expert in european football, so im not sure of the make up of most teams if im really honest, but going off wiki pages, I know and using this list, lets see :

Top 10 European clubs by 'enterprise value'

• Manchester United - €3.255bn
• Real Madrid - €2.92bn
• Barcelona - €2.78bn
• Bayern Munich - €2.55bn
• Manchester City - €2.16bn
• Arsenal - €2.10bn
• Chelsea - €1.76bn
• Liverpool - €1.58bn
• Juventus - €1.30bn
• Tottenham - €1.29bn

Utd, I think we all agree that Jose does what he wants
Real, doesnt Perez sign ALL the players? So not a DoF as such, but whilst im sure the manager has input, Perez is King
Barca, Almost certain the manager has no say
Bayern, Hasan Salihamidžić Sporting director
City, Tixi
Arse, Wenger certainly did it all his own way, but think they have just changed their model to DoF
Chelsea, Conte doesnt have a say at all, as he keeps saying
Liverpool, Klopp does what he wants
Juve, honestly no idea here
Spurs, I know Spurs did follow the DoF route at 1 point, not sure at all how it works under Poch

So out of the 10 clubs, from my very uneducated view, 6 clubs have a DoF, 2 defo dont and 2 are unknown to me.

Only Munich, City, Juve and, this week, Arsenal defo have DOFs from that list above.
Gotta laugh, after months of speculation over managers, we’ve decided to go down this DOF route and most people are trying to justify it even though it was hardly mentioned before. Whatever the Club does, people on here try to dress it up.
Walsh? Yeah great move, he was really the one that won Leicester the league.
Rooney? Great move, the return of a Legend to his spiritual home.
Fat Sham? Had to be done,relegation was beckoning. Etc etc etc
I’m not entirely on board with the whole concept but I’m certainly not gonna dress it up. Well just have to wait and see.

 

[Goat]

Only Munich, City, Juve and, this week, Arsenal defo have DOFs from that list above.
Gotta laugh, after months of speculation over managers, we’ve decided to go down this DOF route and most people are trying to justify it even though it was hardly mentioned before. Whatever the Club does, people on here try to dress it up.
Walsh? Yeah great move, he was really the one that won Leicester the league.
Rooney? Great move, the return of a Legend to his spiritual home.
Fat Sham? Had to be done,relegation was beckoning. Etc etc etc
I’m not entirely on board with the whole concept but I’m certainly not gonna dress it up. Well just have to wait and see.

We will just wait and see.

It clearly didnt work with Walsh.

But Brands, to me, seems a different kettle of fish.

But yes of course, lets see how it plays out.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Only Munich, City, Juve and, this week, Arsenal defo have DOFs from that list above.
Gotta laugh, after months of speculation over managers, we’ve decided to go down this DOF route and most people are trying to justify it even though it was hardly mentioned before. Whatever the Club does, people on here try to dress it up.
Walsh? Yeah great move, he was really the one that won Leicester the league.
Rooney? Great move, the return of a Legend to his spiritual home.
Fat Sham? Had to be done,relegation was beckoning. Etc etc etc
I’m not entirely on board with the whole concept but I’m certainly not gonna dress it up. Well just have to wait and see.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Interesting post, this.

Can you think of any big teams off the top of your head who run this way in the top European leagues? Or is this now the norm for most?

The very top teams may not work this way as they can attract the top managers. But most of the German, French and Dutch teams operate this system and the likes of Sevilla in Spain have been very successful with Monchi in the DoF role and Emery as manager.

 

[Barnfred 55]

But...but...but,who do we boo then ???

The boooers will be in dreamland. Not just one but two. Win win

 

[Barnfred 55]

Now im no expert in european football, so im not sure of the make up of most teams if im really honest, but going off wiki pages, I know and using this list, lets see :

Top 10 European clubs by 'enterprise value'

• Manchester United - €3.255bn
• Real Madrid - €2.92bn
• Barcelona - €2.78bn
• Bayern Munich - €2.55bn
• Manchester City - €2.16bn
• Arsenal - €2.10bn
• Chelsea - €1.76bn
• Liverpool - €1.58bn
• Juventus - €1.30bn
• Tottenham - €1.29bn

Utd, I think we all agree that Jose does what he wants
Real, doesnt Perez sign ALL the players? So not a DoF as such, but whilst im sure the manager has input, Perez is King
Barca, Almost certain the manager has no say
Bayern, Hasan Salihamidžić Sporting director
City, Tixi
Arse, Wenger certainly did it all his own way, but think they have just changed their model to DoF
Chelsea, Conte doesnt have a say at all, as he keeps saying
Liverpool, Klopp does what he wants
Juve, honestly no idea here
Spurs, I know Spurs did follow the DoF route at 1 point, not sure at all how it works under Poch

So out of the 10 clubs, from my very uneducated view, 6 clubs have a DoF, 2 defo dont and 2 are unknown to me.

Not sure about City mate. Pretty sure Pep has final say on style of play, and I'd be surprised if he had zero input into player acquisition and sales.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Only Munich, City, Juve and, this week, Arsenal defo have DOFs from that list above.
Gotta laugh, after months of speculation over managers, we’ve decided to go down this DOF route and most people are trying to justify it even though it was hardly mentioned before. Whatever the Club does, people on here try to dress it up.
Walsh? Yeah great move, he was really the one that won Leicester the league.
Rooney? Great move, the return of a Legend to his spiritual home.
Fat Sham? Had to be done,relegation was beckoning. Etc etc etc
I’m not entirely on board with the whole concept but I’m certainly not gonna dress it up. Well just have to wait and see.

No mate that's pure bollox.

We tried to go down the DoF route after we sacked Martinez but Moshiri totally cocked up his first attempt by picking the wrong people for the job. But the world and his wife, if you're a real Everton supporter that is, new full well what we were trying to do. There's literally been thousands of posts on GOT alone outlining how much of a pigs ear we've been making of it.

It's also been the worst kept secret of the last 2 months that Brands would be replacing Walsh as DoF. So if you really do believe all this DoF stuff has come completely out of the blue, I reckon you must have only become an Evertonian on 3 May 2018.

 

[Samandsam]

No mate that's pure bollox.

We tried to go down the DoF route after we sacked Martinez but Moshiri totally cocked up his first attempt by picking the wrong people for the job. But the world and his wife, if you're a real Everton supporter that is, new full well what we were trying to do. There's literally been thousands of posts on GOT alone outlining how much of a pigs ear we've been making of it.

It's also been the worst kept secret of the last 2 months that Brands would be replacing Walsh as DoF. So if you really do believe all this DoF stuff has come completely out of the blue, I reckon you must have only become an Evertonian on 3 May 2018.

The speculation about the new manager has been going on longer than when Brands name was 1st mentioned. The speculation over a Manager has been going on since Fat Sham was unveiled. Also Walsh was always gonna go. The walsh stuff just backs me up. Some people will blindly back the Club no matter what happens. They’ll dress it up into something it’s not. Don’t really like your arrogant attitude in your reply. Put me in ignore if you don’t agree. A DOF is not for me. No matter how it’s dressed up. Yeah, we made a pigs ear of it. But look back to when Walsh got the job and the optimism around the Club. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I’m using foresight. Some people don’t like some fans having foresight on here as it could be construed as being critical. And we can’t have that, can you?

 

[Caolam]

Brands' opening statement on joining makes clear he has a true European DoF role with full football authority, a massive change from Walsh who was a puffed up Chief Scout. Silva/ANO will be a Head Coach NOT a manager in the traditional British style. A good DoF build close relationships with his HC and works hand in glove with them but the DoF is the senior partner as he is the continuity and he has the long-term strategy/vision.

The DoF sets over-arching football parameters (e.g. is the Everton-way 4-4-2/4-2-3-1/4-3-3/5-4-1...tiki-taka vs. hoofball, high press vs. counter-punch). He also controls training facilities, support staff/medical/sports science and longer-term permanent coaching positions e.g. academy, coaching succession planning. In addition the DoF controls transfer policy e.g. target player ages for first team, valuations, attributes/player types from youth to first team.

The Head Coach is recommended by the DoF (not by the owner/Board) and is expected to fit broadly within the approach set out for the club as a whole by the DoF. The HC has some control over his staff but not total as the DoF may well insist on retaining some staff/succession planning/continuity. The HC controls how to organise training, select teams, motivate/get the most out of the players provided within the broad scheme/ethos set by the DoF. If the HC wants to make significant changes in style and/or target different types of player then this is discussed with the DoF who either agrees, in which case those changes are flowed through the whole structure from youth to first team, or disagrees in which case the HC either accepts and gets on with it or is replaced.

We need to forget everything we think a "manager" does/should do and adapt to this new reality. Of course Silva will have some influence on transfers (positions/attributes he wants) and some ability to tinker with tactics (e.g. varying style/formation during a season for different games) but the overall strategy/ethos, approach and player acquisition/sale decisions rest with Brands who is arguably the single most important figure in the football success of this rebooted Moshiri Everton.

Insightful

 

[billyblue80]

Sexy football

 

[Death]

What Brand of football will we play olredy!

 

[Barnfred 55]

The speculation about the new manager has been going on longer than when Brands name was 1st mentioned. The speculation over a Manager has been going on since Fat Sham was unveiled. Also Walsh was always gonna go. The walsh stuff just backs me up. Some people will blindly back the Club no matter what happens. They’ll dress it up into something it’s not. Don’t really like your arrogant attitude in your reply. Put me in ignore if you don’t agree. A DOF is not for me. No matter how it’s dressed up. Yeah, we made a pigs ear of it. But look back to when Walsh got the job and the optimism around the Club. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I’m using foresight. Some people don’t like some fans having foresight on here as it could be construed as being critical. And we can’t have that, can you?

OK. You don't want a DoF or Silva as manager. We get it.

That doesn't mean that everybody on here who disagrees with you is wrong. Or trying to dress it up, whatever that even means. It just means that they disagree with you. If you can't handle people having a different opinion then don't post on an internet forum.

And if you continue posting nonsense on here like your earlier post, the chances are either I, or more likely somebody else will pull you up on it. If you don't like it you can always put us on ignore.

 

[Samandsam]

OK. You don't want a DoF or Silva as manager. We get it.

That doesn't mean that everybody on here who disagrees with you is wrong. Or trying to dress it up, whatever that even means. It just means that they disagree with you. If you can't handle people having a different opinion then don't post on an internet forum.

And if you continue posting nonsense on here like your earlier post, the chances are either I, or more likely somebody else will pull you up on it. If you don't like it you can always put us on ignore.

Quite obviously, you can’t handle someone having a different opinion. I got no problem with people having a different opinion, you’re the one that was insulting and extremely arrogant in your reply because you didn’t agree. So, whatever. Is it your time of month?