Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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He had the chance to do it this season mate. Perfect start, saying all the right things, a lot of the dissenters had been silenced. Ideal opportunity to kick on. He didn't.

You will get you way mate, too many fans against him for it not to,

who do you want ?
 
Because he's already got a job - and all of the other candidates are either out of work or due to leave their current clubs?
Its nothing to do with that, its because he's awful and Arsenal or Chelsea wouldn't go near him...

Btw Allardyce will be available at the end of May when the 2 clubs above need new managers..
 

Its nothing to do with that, its because he's awful and Arsenal or Chelsea wouldn't go near him...

Btw Allardyce will be available at the end of May when the 2 clubs above need new managers..

I know mate - Just bored on my lunch and playing devil's advocate

I don't want him anywhere near my club - but unfortunately I don't particularly have any trust in the current ownership to do the right thing
 
You will get you way mate, too many fans against him for it not to,

who do you want ?
It's not so much who I want as what I want.

I want Everton to develop a plan that will have us competing at the top level again, regularly in the running for CL place and the odd trophy win.

I believe we can't compete financially with the big boys and attract the very best players at the top of their game. So we need to do the next best thing and identify those who aren't quite there, and then develop them ourselves. Similar to what the RS have done with the likes of Coutinho and Firmino.

First we need to bring in a Director of Football with a track record of working along those lines. We then need to adopt a preferred way of playing that we implement throughout the club, from the youth teams to the first team. It needs to be a brand of football that will get the Goodison crowd off it's seats (easier said than done) which means it has to be fast paced, dynamic and primarily offensive. We need to have a worldwide scouting system that will identify young up and coming players who will slot into the system, to compliment the ones coming though our own academy.

We need to appoint a manager who will implement that playing style. He has to be somebody who is prepared to give youth a chance and somebody who will continue coaching individual players to improve them, rather than just coaching a playing system to the team as a whole. Too many managers just do the latter and totally disregard improving the players individually.

We just so happen to have a lot of young players with excellent potential already, and the new manager will need to find a way to implement these players into the team/squad depending upon where they are un their development, and then continue to develop them so they go some way to fulfilling their potential.

I'm not sure who the right people for the job are. Brands seems to be in the loop for DOF and I'd bring him in first as the first piece in the jigsaw, so he has a say on who to bring in as manager to implement the playing style he wants.
 
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As said earlier Joey the big boys would prefer to walk into Chelsea,Man U,City,Arsenal teams with a decent squad and stadium so they have a chance of silverware from the off.There is a reason we have never attracted a manager who has been at a top club.
There are better managers than Sam out there who would like a challenge with Moshiris money!
 
As far as I can tell Lookman looked for a loan because he knew he wasn’t going to get game time
Vlasic needs game time.
He hasn’t been starting Davies or DCL

They are 19 and 20. Why would he be starting them?

Game time is game time and they are featuring in pretty much every single game we play.

Vlasic only needs game time if he is good enough, not purely because he is young.
 

If Allardyce is so good why are none of the media experts putting his name forward for the Arsenal job and upcoming vacancy at Chelsea.

Because he already has a job, one that he has only just started.

Its not like Silva who gets linked because he jibs off clubs every chance he gets the rat.*

*Opinion may change if he becomes our manager
 
Every one is entitled to an opinion.

By my objection to him is basically because he’s an average manager, that plays shocking negative hoof ball tactics. Criticises the fans and players when it suits his agenda, lies in press conferences.
In an interview last week he even had a little dig at David Unsworth. I despise the man.
My objection to him right there mate.

And all you have done is stick up for the guy, some of your posts over the last couple of months have been embarrassing. Don’t forget the General manager shout. On what planet would any Everton fan what this dinosaur as our General manager.
You have your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it.. we just see things differently.

I still think the idea of Sam as a general manager is a very good one.
There are very few managers who more or less guarantee success and unfortunately as a club we are not able to attract them.
I think we have progressed beyond taking a manager and hoping that he will be a success. Appointing a manager like Fonseca who has absolutely no idea of what the premiership is all about borders on reckless in my opinion ... unless he had a man working with him who knows exactly what is needed.
I have heard Arteta being mentioned, Even Rooney and there will young European coaches who will grow into great managers but we cannot afford to be the toy they practise on in the meantime.

I am suggesting Sam because he is already at the club, costing a lot of money and has the experience we need. I would put Wenger in the same category... managers coming to the end of their career with loads of experience who could act as mentors as a young coach learns about all the other things you need to know apart from coaching.
 
If he sacked the manager and hired an industry expert CEO and allowed them a free hand to carry out a scorched earth policy that seen the clique in the dressing room destroyed and the hanger on coaching staffed binned, then there could be no criticism for Moshiri over grasping the nettle over team affairs.
It'd be one helluva ground zero. Whoever they get in though, would have to be on top of it all to make sure that we were firing from the moment the first ball is kicked next season, as it is an exceptionally high risk strategy.

As long as whoever comes in can show that ultimately we will be playing a more expansive football style that can compete in the top of the division, then I'd be prepared for some Big Scam style performances over the first part of next season if it all goes as you describe whilst we get a toehold into the league. I would hope that even with all the bad apples gone, we'd still be around 7th place once we got going. But unlike this season, with a manager and team that were starting to show that they can thrill us and have the potential to smash into the top 6 relatively quickly and then mount a challenge into the top 4 and beyond.
 
I am suggesting Sam because he is already at the club, costing a lot of money and has the experience we need. I would put Wenger in the same category... managers coming to the end of their career with loads of experience who could act as mentors as a young coach learns about all the other things you need to know apart from coaching.

Experience of what? Of never winning anything? Of signing old cloggers? Of playing hoofball? No thanks.
 
I think Moshiri may have had his fingers burnt and is now looking for solidity, consistency and PL survival while we work out the stadium details. He has paid out for 3 ex-managers (+staff), we have spent a fortune on mainly disappointing signings, have average players on huge salaries that will not go elsewhere so will be difficult to get shut of, short of giving them away e,g, Sandro. Was listening to TalkShite and Danny Murphy, that cockney Orient fan, Jim White and whoever else were saying what a good job he has done, worth sticking with to see how his footie develops with money to spend etc. Its like they have never watched the crap he has produced over the years or more likely its the bigging up of British/English managers when we know they are mostly [Poor language removed]. Glad to get out the car as the next guest up was Hodgson ! Hes another media darling who has done f all in his "long and illustrious" career.

If you really think that Roy Hodgson has done ' f all' in his long career, I suggest you google 'Roy Hodgson honours' to see how wrong you are........
 

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