Paulo Fonseca

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Toffe3m4n said:
Everton aim to ditch Sam Allardyce and appoint Paulo Fonseca as part of a second straight off-season overhaul

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-aim-ditch-sam-allardyce-12260820

From John Cross, posted about half an hour ago.
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Fonesca - why the excitement around this?

What has the guy achieved / what qualities does he have that make people think he'd even be on a level with any of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman or Allardyce? Let alone a genuine step up in management quality like an Ancelotti, Hiddink, Benitez etc - those who've been there and done it in the big leagues. The biggest clubs this guy has managed have been in Portugal and Ukraine - no comparison to the prem?

Teams managed:

2005–2007 Estrela Amadora (youth)
2007–2008 1º Dezembro
2008–2009 Odivelas
2009–2011 Pinhalnovense
2011–2012 Aves
2012–2013 Paços Ferreira
2013–2014 Porto
2014–2015 Paços Ferreira
2015–2016 Braga
2016– Shakhtar Donetsk

Honours:

Manager
Porto
Braga
Shakhtar Donetsk
Individual
 

Legend Barry Horne said:
Fonesca - why the excitement around this?

What has the guy achieved / what qualities does he have that make people think he'd even be on a level with any of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman or Allardyce? Let alone a genuine step up in management quality like an Ancelotti, Hiddink, Benitez etc - those who've been there and done it in the big leagues. The biggest clubs this guy has managed have been in Portugal and Ukraine - no comparison to the prem?

Teams managed:

2005–2007 Estrela Amadora (youth)
2007–2008 1º Dezembro
2008–2009 Odivelas
2009–2011 Pinhalnovense
2011–2012 Aves
2012–2013 Paços Ferreira
2013–2014 Porto
2014–2015 Paços Ferreira
2015–2016 Braga
2016– Shakhtar Donetsk

Honours:

Manager
Porto
Braga
Shakhtar Donetsk
Individual
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Cus football ain't played on Wikipedia bro
 
Till/if it happens,no point getting excited etc,as sams still here for one right now,and 2 didnt we all sit here and hope a certain team won a final few years ago in the hope the losing boss was supposedly comming to us,to off course that not happen
 
Legend Barry Horne said:
Fonesca - why the excitement around this?

What has the guy achieved / what qualities does he have that make people think he'd even be on a level with any of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman or Allardyce? Let alone a genuine step up in management quality like an Ancelotti, Hiddink, Benitez etc - those who've been there and done it in the big leagues. The biggest clubs this guy has managed have been in Portugal and Ukraine - no comparison to the prem?

Teams managed:

2005–2007 Estrela Amadora (youth)
2007–2008 1º Dezembro
2008–2009 Odivelas
2009–2011 Pinhalnovense
2011–2012 Aves
2012–2013 Paços Ferreira
2013–2014 Porto
2014–2015 Paços Ferreira
2015–2016 Braga
2016– Shakhtar Donetsk

Honours:

Manager
Porto
Braga
Shakhtar Donetsk
Individual
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You're right, how can he compete with Sam's League of Ireland First Division win back in '92.

As a manager
Limerick
Notts County
Bolton Wanderers
West Ham United
Individual
 
Legend Barry Horne said:
Fonesca - why the excitement around this?

What has the guy achieved / what qualities does he have that make people think he'd even be on a level with any of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman or Allardyce? Let alone a genuine step up in management quality like an Ancelotti, Hiddink, Benitez etc - those who've been there and done it in the big leagues. The biggest clubs this guy has managed have been in Portugal and Ukraine - no comparison to the prem?

Teams managed:

2005–2007 Estrela Amadora (youth)
2007–2008 1º Dezembro
2008–2009 Odivelas
2009–2011 Pinhalnovense
2011–2012 Aves
2012–2013 Paços Ferreira
2013–2014 Porto
2014–2015 Paços Ferreira
2015–2016 Braga
2016– Shakhtar Donetsk

Honours:

Manager
Porto
Braga
Shakhtar Donetsk
Individual
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U ok m8?
 

FTY said:
Cus football ain't played on Wikipedia bro
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Explain the qualities to me? Looks like we'd be gambling on raw potential - which was the case with Martinez

I'd assume we'd still have the same strategy as 1-2 years ago which was to crack the top 6, bringing in a manager who's a proven winner

Fonseca from what I can see doesn't fit that brief but you may be able to shed some light on this?

Seems to me people just think he looks good and those untarnished by any experience in the difficult premier league are often viewed with rose tinted glasses...Then after a few defeats, the fickle masses will turn on them!
 
LocalNative said:
You're right, how can he compete with Sam's League of Ireland First Division win back in '92.

As a manager
Limerick
Notts County
Bolton Wanderers
West Ham United
Individual
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But this isn't a reason for going for someone with a mediocre / non existent record. Thought we'd be going for someone who'd won / seriously challenged for league titles consistently in the serious leagues?
 
Legend Barry Horne said:
But this isn't a reason for going for someone with a mediocre / non existent record. Thought we'd be going for someone who'd won / seriously challenged for league titles consistently in the serious leagues?
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Name one manager who was won league title consistently in the 'serious leagues' that would even consider taking charge here?

Fonseca has a philosophy, one that is current and progressive. Demonstrated how adaptable and flamboyant his teams can be in the Champions League this season beating Man City along the way. To reach the knockout rounds with a Ukranian side - whom can't play in their home stadium - is fantastic. He won the treble for Shakhtar, which may not look as shiny due to the level of competition in Ukraine but it's still some achievement.
 

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