2017/18 Tom Davies

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For everyone slagging him off.

Our record without him playing this season (discounting the pointless Limassol game) is as follows

Played 6, won 0, drew 1, lost 5, scored 3, conceded 17. (1 out of 18 points)

Record when he has lined up as the most attacking this season of the midfield 3 (City & United away, Bournemouth home, Chelsea, Leicester, Palace home, and yesterday away at Stoke)

played 7, won 4, drew 2, lost 1, scored 10, conceded 9. (14 out of 21 points)

Maybe just coincidence, but interesting stats that maybe suggest the team plays better when he plays and when he plays more advanced the team plays much better.

and MAYBE just maybe he's a player who when in the side the overall shape and performance of others benefits and we are more balanced etc?
 

For everyone slagging him off.

Our record without him playing this season (discounting the pointless Limassol game) is as follows

Played 6, won 0, drew 1, lost 5, scored 3, conceded 17. (1 out of 18 points)

Record when he has lined up as the most attacking this season of the midfield 3 (City & United away, Bournemouth home, Chelsea, Leicester, Palace home, and yesterday away at Stoke)

played 7, won 4, drew 2, lost 1, scored 10, conceded 9. (14 out of 21 points)

Maybe just coincidence, but interesting stats that maybe suggest the team plays better when he plays and when he plays more advanced the team plays much better.

and MAYBE just maybe he's a player who when in the side the overall shape and performance of others benefits and we are more balanced etc?
Abusing our own. The Everton way
 
Abusing our own. The Everton way
The lad needs game time in the U23's or on loan. This is not a criticism of him, it is simply looking after his development. I look at him in games now and he constantly gives the ball away and after a period of time becomes a passenger. I think this maybe a confidence and sel belief issue. I believe there is a player in there, but needs to be managed very carefully.
Let's hope he gets the good game time he needs, as it will for me make him a better player all round
 

No different to DCL for me. Or Kenny Lookman Holgate and Vlasic for that matter. None of them are good enough for the premier now and are holding us back. We need experienced players who can compete now. Not a bunch of 20yo who'll never make it at the top level anyway.

Get shut and bring in more players in their prime
 
No different to DCL for me. Or Kenny Lookman Holgate and Vlasic for that matter. None of them are good enough for the premier now and are holding us back. We need experienced players who can compete now. Not a bunch of 20yo who'll never make it at the top level anyway.

Get shut and bring in more players in their prime

Prima donnas who don’t give a jot about the club and use us as a stepping stone?
 
Clearly a better team when he plays. His running and endeavour makes things happen for others, much rather he was in there than anyone else at the club. Bigger gaping holes in the squad that need to be addressed before asking questions of Davies, in my opinion, like
 
Prima donnas who don’t give a jot about the club and use us as a stepping stone?
Who cares as long as they improve the team.

DCL cant score. Davies gives the ball away too much. Holgate makes mistakes. Vlasic switches off defensively. Looknan is inconsistent. Kenny doesnt get forward like Coleman does. And Beni. I'll get back to you on him when I find out his fault.

They're all around 20 or over and these issues should have been sorted now if they're to be any good.

We can't compete in the premier when we"re carrying si many passengers.
 
Who cares as long as they improve the team.

DCL cant score. Davies gives the ball away too much. Holgate makes mistakes. Vlasic switches off defensively. Looknan is inconsistent. Kenny doesnt get forward like Coleman does. And Beni. I'll get back to you on him when I find out his fault.

They're all around 20 or over and these issues should have been sorted now if they're to be any good.

We can't compete in the premier when we"re carrying si many passengers.
Beni is ace and should be starting every game this season. Next season he'll most likely need a loan to the Championship.
 

For everyone slagging him off.

Our record without him playing this season (discounting the pointless Limassol game) is as follows

Played 6, won 0, drew 1, lost 5, scored 3, conceded 17. (1 out of 18 points)

Record when he has lined up as the most attacking this season of the midfield 3 (City & United away, Bournemouth home, Chelsea, Leicester, Palace home, and yesterday away at Stoke)

played 7, won 4, drew 2, lost 1, scored 10, conceded 9. (14 out of 21 points)

Maybe just coincidence, but interesting stats that maybe suggest the team plays better when he plays and when he plays more advanced the team plays much better.

and MAYBE just maybe he's a player who when in the side the overall shape and performance of others benefits and we are more balanced etc?

"Lines up as the most attacking of three".

Total nonsense. Rooney often played ahead of him in those games.

HEY LADS BAINES HAS A 100% WIN RECORD SINCE HE HAS BEEN BACK, PROBS BEST LEFT BACK IN THE WORLD.

Both statements equally have correct information (the form) interpreted wrongly.
 
The lad needs game time in the U23's or on loan. This is not a criticism of him, it is simply looking after his development. I look at him in games now and he constantly gives the ball away and after a period of time becomes a passenger. I think this maybe a confidence and sel belief issue. I believe there is a player in there, but needs to be managed very carefully.
Let's hope he gets the good game time he needs, as it will for me make him a better player all round

Crazy to suggest him going on loan when he is now an established and integral member of the squad, he's in the difficult second season for a youngster after bursting on the scene and deserves all the support he can get, yes giving him the odd rest but too good to loan out.
 
No different to DCL for me. Or Kenny Lookman Holgate and Vlasic for that matter. None of them are good enough for the premier now and are holding us back. We need experienced players who can compete now. Not a bunch of 20yo who'll never make it at the top level anyway.

Get shut and bring in more players in their prime
Like Schneiderlin ?
 

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