“Fans” that won’t support us if we get Allardyce

Connor · February 28, 2018

@matty1878

Well played brother.

Cork Evertonian · February 28, 2018

JLW said:
He guarantees nothing mate

He guarantees mediocrity and dull boring and insipid football!

Cork Evertonian · February 28, 2018

tirion said:
if people choose not to go just stop, Big Sam may well be our manager starting tomorrow morning if you don't feel you can continue to support the blues because of him fine, just stop you wont be missed.

Indeed and Big Sam won't be missed either. :cool:

ToffeeTim · February 28, 2018

Repent and apologise all you Sam apologists and Sam supporters. There were plenty of you about last November.

We are still in the day of grace, there is still yet time for cleansing and forgiveness.

TraffordBlue · February 28, 2018

For the Sam haters...here are some simple facts for you:

When Koeman was sacked: 18th, points from 7th = 7
When Moshiri decided to replace Unsworth with Big Sam: 17th, points from relegation = 2, points from 7th = 10
When Allardyce was officially appointed: 13th, points from relegation = 5, points from 7th = 9
Now: 9th, points from relegation = 7, points from 7th = 3

All I can see is improvement. He's moved us away from the threat of relegation largely due to his excellent first month here, and got us within 3 points of potential European qualification.

Now is it a significant improvement good enough for this club? Of course not. He's stubborn, refuses to take responsibility when things go wrong, has negative containing tactics, and he hasn't done anything to address the abysmal away form, other than getting that one good result at Newcastle.

Up to now, Moshiri can feel justified in appointing him given the situation we were in before he came in. He can also feel justified in moving him on in the Summer.

MickA · February 28, 2018

EFC78 said:
For the Sam haters...here are some simple facts for you:

When Koeman was sacked: 18th, points from 7th = 7
When Moshiri decided to replace Unsworth with Big Sam: 17th, points from relegation = 2, points from 7th = 10
When Allardyce was officially appointed: 13th, points from relegation = 5, points from 7th = 9
Now: 9th, points from relegation = 7, points from 7th = 3

All I can see is improvement. He's moved us away from the threat of relegation largely due to his excellent first month here, and got us within 3 points of potential European qualification.

Now is it a significant improvement good enough for this club? Of course not. He's stubborn, refuses to take responsibility when things go wrong, has negative containing tactics, and he hasn't done anything to address the abysmal away form, other than getting that one good result at Newcastle.

Up to now, Moshiri can feel justified in appointing him given the situation we were in before he came in. He can also feel justified in moving him on in the Summer.

I see what you did there. Disingenuous at best. Clap clap.

welshtoffee · February 28, 2018

I have not or will go and watch the blues while this fat corrupt idiot is the manager. You can fling all the facts and figures at me saying how he is better than recent managers. The simple fact is our football is just bloody awful, slow, predictable and just boring. We must be one of the worse teams in the league to watch at this present moment, will it change while Allardyce is in charge I really doubt it.

TheBlueGibbon · February 28, 2018

EFC78 said:
For the Sam haters...here are some simple facts for you:

When Koeman was sacked: 18th, points from 7th = 7
When Moshiri decided to replace Unsworth with Big Sam: 17th, points from relegation = 2, points from 7th = 10
When Allardyce was officially appointed: 13th, points from relegation = 5, points from 7th = 9
Now: 9th, points from relegation = 7, points from 7th = 3

All I can see is improvement. He's moved us away from the threat of relegation largely due to his excellent first month here, and got us within 3 points of potential European qualification.

Now is it a significant improvement good enough for this club? Of course not. He's stubborn, refuses to take responsibility when things go wrong, has negative containing tactics, and he hasn't done anything to address the abysmal away form, other than getting that one good result at Newcastle.

Up to now, Moshiri can feel justified in appointing him given the situation we were in before he came in. He can also feel justified in moving him on in the Summer.

This has got more to do with Burnley only winning two games since Allardyce was appointed.

TraffordBlue · February 28, 2018

TheBlueGibbon said:
This has got more to do with Burnley only winning two games since Allardyce was appointed.

So nothing to do with him coming in to a club that had just lost 5 in 8 under the caretaker manager, had the worst defence in the league and then put in an excellent run of form from nowhere for the first 6 games?

We'd just conceded 16 goals in the previous 6 games. He came in and we conceded 2 in the next 6 with 2 of the fixtures being against top 5 sides, most notably going away to face the RS at Anfield.

Since those 6 games he has been a huge disappointment but some just can't give credit where it's due.

TraffordBlue · February 28, 2018

MickA said:
I see what you did there. Disingenuous at best. Clap clap.

Disingenuous to point out the reality of the situation we were in before he came in, and where we are now, to those who never gave him a chance?

windymiller · February 28, 2018

EFC78 said:
Since those 6 games he has been a huge disappointment but some just can't give credit where it's due.

And some can't allocate blame where it's due.

GrandOldTeam · February 28, 2018

EFC78 said:
For the Sam haters...here are some simple facts for you:

When Koeman was sacked: 18th, points from 7th = 7
When Moshiri decided to replace Unsworth with Big Sam: 17th, points from relegation = 2, points from 7th = 10
When Allardyce was officially appointed: 13th, points from relegation = 5, points from 7th = 9
Now: 9th, points from relegation = 7, points from 7th = 3

All I can see is improvement. He's moved us away from the threat of relegation largely due to his excellent first month here, and got us within 3 points of potential European qualification.

Now is it a significant improvement good enough for this club? Of course not. He's stubborn, refuses to take responsibility when things go wrong, has negative containing tactics, and he hasn't done anything to address the abysmal away form, other than getting that one good result at Newcastle.

Up to now, Moshiri can feel justified in appointing him given the situation we were in before he came in. He can also feel justified in moving him on in the Summer.

HI MATE

TheBlueGibbon · February 28, 2018

EFC78 said:
So nothing to do with him coming in to a club that had just lost 5 in 8 under the caretaker manager, had the worst defence in the league and then put in an excellent run of form from nowhere for the first 6 games?

We'd just conceded 16 goals in the previous 6 games. He came in and we conceded 2 in the next 6 with 2 of the fixtures being against top 5 sides, most notably going away to face the RS at Anfield.

Since those 6 games he has been a huge disappointment but some just can't give credit where it's due.

We beat West Ham, Huddersfield, Newcastle and Swansea mate, all of whom would have been considered contenders for relegation at the start of the season.
Unsworth lost to Southampton and Leicester in the league, who would have been expected to finish mid-table.
As soon as we've come up against a reasonably difficult set of fixtures, he's struggled to get them to perform.