Steve Walsh - no longer our Director of Football

[Deleted member 28206]

No, of course not. But the fella apparently heading the whole thing up does carry some culpability. And praise.

And yeah, not having the additions needed sorted soon is down to more than one man.

I would blame Moshiri more than anyone.

 

[Efcjake]

I blame the entire club for not identifying a striker when Romelu said he wanted to leave nearly a year ago.

But yeh, go and blame one person. Good logic that Blues

He's the one responsible for recruitment... So, yeah. It's his responsibility and his failure.

And if it isn't his responsibility then what does he actually do mate?

 

[Efcjake]

I would blame Moshiri more than anyone.

For picking Walsh?

 

[Connor]

Time is running out, Steve.

 

[Death]

Did we call him back from Italy for this? He was doing excellent work there.

 

[maccavennie]

I don't have confidence particularly, and I agree it would have been nice, but it was never likely. Because Everton.

Sam has been here 5 weeks. His remit isn't 'just' transfers and despite it being easy to say 'we need this' as fans, he had to be given the chance to fully assess the squad.

He may have felt he could have got more out of certain players than he has done. I know we've definitely enquired (I was led to believe we'd actually bid, though certain comments from certain people in the last few days have cast doubt over that) about a high profile defender and have had positive feedback on that. That happened in the middle of December. But we didn't move into talks or hadn't as of Christmas due in part to Sam still wanting to be sure which areas to prioritise. It seems that we have prioritised a striker and hopefully it'll be done this week. I'm guessing the plan was to have it announced by now but if we're still negotiating, we're still negotiating. The first bid supposedly went in a week ago...

@orly index me pls

As always Toff very well put but I'm the same side of @Rudolf Hucker here. Regardless how long Sam has been here and regardless what he wanted to see in the squad, we are criminally short at left back and striker regardless of who the manager is.

Allardyce isn't stupid, he might have been here 5 weeks but he had been approached 3/4 weeks previous, he would have already been sounding Walsh out earlier when he thought he had the job and anyone on the outside looking in can see how threadbare and lacking in quality in certsin positions.

Every day left back and a striker isn't brought in is a day more where the people who run this club should be held accountable

 

[thebluenosebolt]

We don't know what walsh has to play with. Easy to blame him for not finding a star in 1 1/2 seasons but none of us have any insight to what power he actually has. Has he complete freedom to the purse strings or does he have to go with the managers, Owners opinions....this point is complete moot.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

For picking Walsh?

Yep. 100% since he’s joined Everton has been a complete embarrassment.

 

[COYBL25]

Yep. 100% since he’s joined Everton has been a complete embarrassment.

In fairness to Walsh, we were an embarrassment before he arrived

 

[ijjysmith]

In fairness to Walsh, we were an embarrassment before he arrived

He’s doing nothing to try and change this seemingly.

 

[Efcjake]

We don't know what walsh has to play with. Easy to blame him for not finding a star in 1 1/2 seasons but none of us have any insight to what power he actually has. Has he complete freedom to the purse strings or does he have to go with the managers, Owners opinions....this point is complete moot.

I imagine he and his team of scouts put together recommendations based on what the manager identifies as a need.

He has enough of a remit to sign younger players like Lookman and Vlasic but I'd say the manager is still the final say and then it's his job to go to the negotiating table and get the deal done.

 

[blue62]

Seems to me that everyone is in the line of fire at the moment, but the truth is that the majority of fans (myself included) don't really know who to blame so we blame everyone and anyone.

The little I know of business and organisations leads me to believe that most problems stem from the top rather than the bottom (but then I am a socialist at heart) and it strikes me that there is genuine confusion at the top within EFC at the moment. A wealthy new investor without control and the old guard running the show somehow between them, it's a recipe for disaster. Clear ownership and leadership from the top, Moshiri and Bill need to settle things and one or the other take the helm, form then on I would personally favour a collective autonomy rather than a autocratic regime (joke), but we need leadership from the top and Sam, Walsh et al are just the sitting ducks. Wake up brothers and sisters.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

I’ll take this into the Moshiri thread. You are aiming your cannons at the wrong fella out of frustration

 

[Midnitemike]

We don't know what walsh has to play with. Easy to blame him for not finding a star in 1 1/2 seasons but none of us have any insight to what power he actually has. Has he complete freedom to the purse strings or does he have to go with the managers, Owners opinions....this point is complete moot.

I would say Lookman will be a star and he earned his first years salary on that deal alone. I would love to see a list of the strikers that Walsh had identified during the summer that Koeman binned. I'd bet my hat a few of them are doing well this season elsewhere.

 

[BlueToff]

As always Toff very well put but I'm the same side of @Rudolf Hucker here. Regardless how long Sam has been here and regardless what he wanted to see in the squad, we are criminally short at left back and striker regardless of who the manager is.

Allardyce isn't stupid, he might have been here 5 weeks but he had been approached 3/4 weeks previous, he would have already been sounding Walsh out earlier when he thought he had the job and anyone on the outside looking in can see how threadbare and lacking in quality in certsin positions.

Every day left back and a striker isn't brought in is a day more where the people who run this club should be held accountable

Not particularly reffering to those two positions mate - think it's clear we needed players there.

But, we approached a club for their best player two weeks' (or just over) into Allardyce's tenure. A player who can cover multiple positions and is definitely available. Led to believe we were/are more than willing to meet an asking price that isn't one to scoff at, either.

Events with other clubs may now mean that deal doesn't happen, but we have been working on deals and that one could still be a goer as well but it seems we've prioritised the striker first. As I've said - none of us know much on Tosun, but the first rumblings of a bid came out in the Turkish press around the 20th December. That's what, three weeks into Sam's tenure?

Seems about right that in that time him and Walsh would have been assessing their list of targets for each position, and deciding which to prioritise. Given the defence seemed to have been sorted in the main, we clearly chose to go for the attacker first.

I'm not defending it, but just suggesting this has what has happened.

I don't agree on your second para mate. Sam wasn't Moshiri's first choice. Him and Walsh will not have had contact about any particular individuals until Sam all-but got the job.