Joe Royle.

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I'm not sure Allardyce et al would be the reason for this. I'd hazard a guess and say Royle is a casualty of a culling of influential people inside and outside the club by Moshiri too closely aligned to the past.

The sort of change that sees a man of the stature of Royle leaving the club is change we dont need.

Depends though mate

Love Royle to bits, but one thing that could be levelled at him, is that he has always supported Kenwright over every contentious moment - or at the 'best' stayed utterly silent on the matter.

I'll be blunt mate, you have long said you want rid of Kenwrigth and all the assorted backers of him at the club, Royle is a very high profile (amongst blues) backer of Kenwrigth. Short term at least you can't have it both ways, to remove Blue Bill - will require removing his support base in the club, and that will see a few people we like/love leaving the club as a necessity.


Long term - hopefully after the 'guard' has been changed and the club cleaned house, then certain figures can come back in a ambassadorial type role for the club - without it having any influence on the day to day operating of the club.
 

Very difficult to tell from the outside how capable people are in their roles. Everton, again from the outside looking in, reeks of nepotism rather than a meritocracy in technical roles.

We shouldn't be sentimental when it comes to showing technical people the door, it's a performance business.

In non technical matters you'd like to think people like Joe will always be welcome as he is a true legend.

It's Royle has to stay at the club in a influential role because he's a massive Blue
Ferguson has to stay in the coaching set-up - because he's a massive blue
Kenwright went the boys pen and is the worlds biggest blue

When reason for someone staying in role at the club is phrased more on who they are than what their competence is, thats when you have problems
 
Am expecting some other moves in the backroom and boardroom very soon - heard about Joe at the match at the weekend, think there is going to be a little bit of a sweep coming up...

Fingers crossed Elstone is part of it like I was told.

Step 1 towards getting Blue Bill out the club one hopes
 
Depends though mate

Love Royle to bits, but one thing that could be levelled at him, is that he has always supported Kenwright over every contentious moment - or at the 'best' stayed utterly silent on the matter.

I'll be blunt mate, you have long said you want rid of Kenwrigth and all the assorted backers of him at the club, Royle is a very high profile (amongst blues) backer of Kenwrigth. Short term at least you can't have it both ways, to remove Blue Bill - will require removing his support base in the club, and that will see a few people we like/love leaving the club as a necessity.


Long term - hopefully after the 'guard' has been changed and the club cleaned house, then certain figures can come back in a ambassadorial type role for the club - without it having any influence on the day to day operating of the club.
If you're going to remove a regime that's still lingering on and causing trouble as a dual power then you decapitate it, you dont work from the outside in.

The buying out of the remaining shares still out of his/Usmanov's hands is the way to go here.

Marginalising favourite Kenwright placemen in the media and ridding the club of a figurehead who has, in reality, a sinecure at the club is just petty.

If he is a new broom that wants to sweep clean, get on with it.
 
I actually forgot he still had a role at the club until Koeman was sacked. Fair enough he's a club legend but does he really need to still be employed by us? I'm glad we are starting to move on personnel who are not bringing anything to that role. Hopefully they keep that methodology when getting rid of some of the board and players in January.

I'm sure Big Joe will be able to go to the match when he fancies it anyway, let him enjoy his retirement.
 

Amazing that two home wins against mediocre opposition can nullify a fanbase against a brown envelope low expectation specialist being appointed, a kopite wee-drinker being appointed, the East Midlands Rasputin being appointed, an Everton icon having to resign in protest and many on the Everton staff being demoted in their roles.

But at least the season ticket prices have been frozen. 'I'm alright Jack'.
 
If you're going to remove a regime that's still lingering on and causing trouble as a dual power then you decapitate it, you dont work from the outside in.

The buying out of the remaining shares still out of his/Usmanov's hands is the way to go here.

Marginalising favourite Kenwright placemen in the media and ridding the club of a figurehead who has, in reality, a sinecure at the club is just petty.

If he is a new broom that wants to sweep clean, get on with it.

and hopefully as i said we will start to see things happen soon mate.
 
Amazing that two home wins against mediocre opposition can nullify a fanbase against a brown envelope low expectation specialist being appointed, a kopite wee-drinker being appointed, the East Midlands Rasputin being appointed, an Everton icon having to resign in protest and many on the Everton staff being demoted in their roles.

But at least the season ticket prices have been frozen. 'I'm alright Jack'.

Allardyce i will never be comfortable with seeing as manager mate, he's got the potential to screw us up for years should he be given too much scope to do his usual tricks.

As for Lee, doesn't sit comfortably with me in the slightest, BUT would i rather see someone who is actually very respected for his coaching or an evertonian who isn't up to the job coaching us, i'd choose the one with the ability every-time.

The jobs for the boys act needs to stop at this club, as ultimately thats been a huge part of the problem for nigh on 30 years.

As for Royle, no one knows why he has left in reality - from memory he got pretty much pestered to come back by Blue Bill in the first place, speculation maybe - but if Kenwright is soon to go, maybe Joe is leaving now so it doesn't look like he's leaving in protest at Bill being replaced?

Pure speculation obviously
 
Amazing that two home wins against mediocre opposition can nullify a fanbase against a brown envelope low expectation specialist being appointed, a kopite wee-drinker being appointed, the East Midlands Rasputin being appointed, an Everton icon having to resign in protest and many on the Everton staff being demoted in their roles.

But at least the season ticket prices have been frozen. 'I'm alright Jack'.

"an Everton icon having to resign in protest"

absolute conjecture in its finest.....if this was the transfer window people would be tagging you in posts like this for the index
 

Amazing that two home wins against mediocre opposition can nullify a fanbase against a brown envelope low expectation specialist being appointed, a kopite wee-drinker being appointed, the East Midlands Rasputin being appointed, an Everton icon having to resign in protest and many on the Everton staff being demoted in their roles.

But at least the season ticket prices have been frozen. 'I'm alright Jack'.

I cant believe some of the stuff i am reading here!!!!!

Joe Royle was influential in the transition of the likes of Kenny, Dowell, Davies, Baningime & Calvert Lewin int othe first team, alot of the work he has done has been all about the young lads and actually trying to make us different to everyone else.

But Nooooo all you Neymar Fifa Packing, Tubez loving, Toffeetv watching biffs couldnt give one jot about a guy who has possibly done more good for the football club than anyone else bar Howard Kendall
 
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/12/06/royle-leaves-role-at-everton

Professional Development Coordinator at Everton.

The Everton Giant returned to Goodison in July 2014 to join Roberto Martinez’s backroom team, marking his third spell at the Club and the latest chapter in a glittering football career.

During the last three years in his current position, his role has seen him facilitate the progress of young talent breaking through from the Everton Academy and Under-23s setup, as well as assisting in the scouting and recruitment of young players.

Joe said: “I have thoroughly enjoyed my time at the Club over the last few years and, in particular, the opportunity to work so closely with David Unsworth. I’ve been hugely impressed with the way in which he has developed his players - I’m certain he has a very bright future ahead of him.

“I would like to send my best wishes to Sam Allardyce and the Club’s new coaching team, I’m sure they will guide us back to where we belong.

“I’d like to thank everyone I’ve worked with at the Club, but I’d especially like to pay a personal tribute to Bill Kenwright. He is a dear friend and I will be forever grateful for having been given the chance to come back to my Club once again.

“While it just feels like the right time for me to take a break, I’ll still be around the place. I’ve been coming to Goodison for more than 60 years and I’m not going to stop now. I’ve always been an Evertonian and I will always be an Evertonian.”

One of the greatest strikers to have donned the royal blue jersey, Joe was also the last manager to lift a trophy for the Club - winning the FA Cup with a 1-0 victory over Manchester United at Wembley in May 1995.

For almost 40 years, he was the youngest player to figure in the Everton first-team following his appearance at the age of 16 years 282 days against Blackpool in 1966. He became a key member of Harry Catterick’s side of the late 60s, winning the league in 1970 and, in four seasons between 1967 and 1971, he rifled in a remarkable 95 goals from 190 appearances.

In total, Joe finished his playing career at Everton with a total of 119 goals in 275 appearances.

After continuing a successful career as a player and manager away from Everton, he returned to his beloved Blues in November 1994, replacing Mike Walker as manager.

Following the FA Cup success in 1995, Joe guided Everton to sixth place in the 1995/96 season but a succession of injuries and the resulting dip in results led to his departure in 1997.

Now 68, he has enjoyed more than three years at the Club in his current role.

Everton Chairman Bill Kenwright said: “As we all know ‘Legend’ is a word that can be overused in football but, as a player, a manager and a man, there is no doubt that to all Evertonians Joe Royle is just that - a legend. He typifies everything that is good about our Club in terms of knowledge, commitment, skill and passion – but most of all in terms of what it means to be a Blue.

“We will all miss him - every single one of us – but maybe most of all, at this time, David Unsworth with whom he has a special relationship. I will never forget the sight of them both together 18 months ago when they stood on the touchline as joint managers of their beloved Everton in that glorious fun-filled afternoon when we romped home against Norwich.

“The door is always open, Joe. Come back home whenever you want…”

Everton Major Shareholder, Farhad Moshiri, added: “I’ve enjoyed my time getting to know the Everton legend, Joe Royle, in person. I was, of course, absolutely aware of his many achievements
 

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