Summer Transfer Window 2017

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Never understood the out and out lack of respect rooney gets in england. Across the world he is very highly regarded as a player. He has won the leauge multiple times, won the champions leauge, fa cup, leauge cup over and over again. Record breaking goal scorer for club and country and people give him no repect in this country. Always suprises me

I haven't said I don't respect his playing achievements...I just cant see why a potential new signing could be swayed from joining another team and signing for us based upon a player whose going to find it hard to get a game for England or us as a 1st choice.
 

if we believe the rumours

Pickford
Holgate......Koulibaly....VVD...Baines
Davies....Schneiderlin...Gueye
Barkley......Tielemans
Lukaku
That looks astonishing + Tielemans can also play any midfield position so could move back with Lookman or ANother coming in to add pace.
Let's face it, it's fantasy football the notion that we could see the likes of VVD and koulibaly in our defence next season. Whether it is those 2 or other good centre halfs, I hope it gives us the option of playing 3 at the back more often (can you imagine holgate learning from players of that ilk at centre half in a 3 man defence).
 
What rumours Zat?

I rarely pop in here, but that 11 looks not bad!

Pickford were supposed to be favourites
Tielemans weve apparently bid for today
Koulibaly were meant to be very interested again
VVD some rumours a week or two ago

What a summer it would be
 

Let's face it, it's fantasy football the notion that we could see the likes of VVD and koulibaly in our defence next season. Whether it is those 2 or other good centre halfs, I hope it gives us the option of playing 3 at the back more often (can you imagine holgate learning from players of that ilk at centre half in a 3 man defence).

I think training and playing with those 2 in either a 3 man or flat back four Holgate and any other kids coming through would be hugely protected and couldn't not improve
 
For me, I think Koulibaly is one of the best in the world so think he'd be an exceptional signing. If it means we had to only sign one centre back he would be my choice followed by either VVD or Jose Gimenez.

Also, if we had only one superstar centre back then perhaps we sign another next summer which I think is better than having 2 good ones signed now.

I do think Pickford, Koulibaly and VVD would enable us to have a somewhat impregnable centre, the best in England.
Well....it would be better than Robles, Williams and Funes Mori for sure.... ;)

Though tbh I'm not sold on Pickford.

Agree with your shout on Gimenez....
 
The difference here, compared to the last twenty or more years, is that we are talking about potential signings and significant ones at that, before the current season even ends. Hopefully long gone are the days we are the busiest club on deadline day scrabbling round for a last minute season long loan signing.

We have two current key players looking at their future and a key decision will be how good are Everton in World Cup year and ability to challenge for CL.

Let's get our business done early, set our stall out that we mean business, the names mentioned here are quality. We need to get them over the line though. Then overto Rom and Ross to be a part of it.

Smart moves by Walsh and the Board if we are making bids at this stage.
 
Cant see it myself, surely players want to join a team with other top players as opposed to former top players

think you'd be surprised mate, also media and fans alike will write off a player long, long before fellow professionals and most managers will do

For example who do you think a 19-23yo will think he could learn more from, Rooney or say Lukaku?
 
if we believe the rumours

Pickford
Holgate......Koulibaly....VVD...Baines
Davies....Schneiderlin...Gueye
Barkley......Tielemans
Lukaku
That looks astonishing + Tielemans can also play any midfield position so could move back with Lookman or ANother coming in to add pace.

1000% certain that are interest in VVD and Koulibaly isn't wanting to get both mate, it will be seeing which one of the two they have more chance of getting
 

I think the other thing with Wayne is his wider influence. Currently he is a lad few associate with Everton. Fergusan is even allowed to talk about how they "produced" him. Rooney hasn't helped us in that regard with some silly interviews in the past. That being said, him chalking up another 50 appearances for Everton and another 20 league goals over 2-3 years will slightly redress that balance.

Perhaps more importantly though if getting him back into the Everton family. He is a very wealthy man and will have enormous expertise to give to the next generation. You see a lot of Everton players who've come through return to the academy. You saw Ray Hall talk with such pride at lads he brought through going into the coaching of the academy (he mentioned Osman is now). There is something incredibly valuable to prospective parents and young recruits in having lads who were at our academy, made it to the first team, coming back to help coach them. Rooney would be an enormous asset if he was involved in any way with the academy side of things.

Essentially on all parts I do think Rooney needs redemption and in some ways the club would benefit from it. While I don't think he would make a difference in the way Zat is suggesting (i.e. he himself is not world class) for younger players they will feel they can learn a lot from him. The stories he can give them about Van Nistlerooy, Owen, Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes, Zlatan, Pogba and how they approach the game. I also think, anybody in the game of football takes a phone call from Wayne Rooney. He seems a sociable lad too, who can help them bed in.

As for his football ability it is no surprise to me that United did what few teams have done and won at Burnley with him in on Saturday. It doesn't surprise me he scored the winning goal. He again, in an understated way played very well and marshalled the game. As fans we build up new younger players too quickly and write older ones off too quickly. He'd offer our young squad and our club an awful lot.

In a nutshell mate, i agree
 
think you'd be surprised mate, also media and fans alike will write off a player long, long before fellow professionals and most managers will do

For example who do you think a 19-23yo will think he could learn more from, Rooney or say Lukaku?

Depends if they want to play with superstars or learn from former superstars...if that makes sense...
 
Depends if they want to play with superstars or learn from former superstars...if that makes sense...

Kind of mate, but Rooney has achieved more in his career than Lukaku will ever do, thats just simple fact really, he's played and captained some amazing players both internationally and at club level, and although a declined force, i will guarantee that he can still do things both on the training ground and the pitch that no one in our team and very few players are capable of (just the frequency of such things is a lot less than once it was)

There was a massive reason why Mourinho wanted Zlatan at united this season, it was to to provide experience and a winner to a team lacking them in the most part. No chance on earth Mourinho thought Zlatan was a sure thing to produce in this league and at his age.

For example say we managed to get to a Semi final or final - out of our current team and add Rooney, whose the one player you would KNOW would keep a clear head and not let the occasion get to them and sometimes having that in a team is vital
 
Kind of mate, but Rooney has achieved more in his career than Lukaku will ever do, thats just simple fact really, he's played and captained some amazing players both internationally and at club level, and although a declined force, i will guarantee that he can still do things both on the training ground and the pitch that no one in our team and very few players are capable of (just the frequency of such things is a lot less than once it was)

There was a massive reason why Mourinho wanted Zlatan at united this season, it was to to provide experience and a winner to a team lacking them in the most part. No chance on earth Mourinho thought Zlatan was a sure thing to produce in this league and at his age.

For example say we managed to get to a Semi final or final - out of our current team and add Rooney, whose the one player you would KNOW would keep a clear head and not let the occasion get to them and sometimes having that in a team is vital

This is spot on and signing Zlatan has what has done for Rooney there, as he has done what Rooney had been doing.

Imagine being Tom Davies, or Liam Walsh and being able to ask Rooney how Keane, Scholes, Pogba etc did things. Or Holgate how Ferdinand, Neville or Vidic prepared.
 

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