Ronald Koeman discussion

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Tactics were terrible tod
Their defence and midfield: I cant recall a worse combination of 7 outfield players assembling for them.

It was appalling we struggled against that rubbish.

Well we did struggle so it shows how rubbish we are.

Wouldn't mind seeing a list of all the teams that have won at the pit in the last 18 years. Pretty sure some of them would put us to shame. This season alone.
 

You have no point, their team was equally as bad last year. That's the point.

Keep swinging and missing though

It's easy mate: I stated their defensive and midfield 7 were the worst that's assembled for them and you mistook that to be about the whole team and gave me 8 outfield players all told who played last season for some reason best known to yourself.
 
But that wasn't my point. I stated their defence and midfield 7...you gave me 8 players in return.

Lol.

of their defence and midfield 7 then Dave

Mignolet, Clyne, Lovren, Milner, Lucas all played in both games

Differences being Sahko and Moreno played last year and Matip and Can this

Think this years 7 was worse?
 

Well I for one think this is a huge over reaction.
3 points is all that was lost and a pride. Only need to look at the points the two sides have picked up since the last Derby to understand how this one game doesn't make a season.
Their players pressed better, were fitter and dispatched a lesser able team at home like we have to others.

I'd give Koeman another pre season training and transfer window before you can measure the progress properly. Knee jerking has never led to sustained progress.

Thought Ronald was brave to trust the youngsters. The gamble didn't pay off but what was the alternative? If he played Barry and Mirallas and we lost the over reaction would be the same but with criticism that he should have give the younger lads a go.

If we had run we'd have revelled in it's arrogance and we'd have lauded it that our youngsters beat Champions League place contenders.

If we want to pride ourselves on our academy and believe that we might have a conveyor belt approach to talent the within it's ranks we need to back them and be patient and encouraging.

For some it was their first 1st team derby.

It makes us all more emotional losing to them, and the record is atrocious but it won't last forever. Records and results come and go but whether progress is being made under Ronald is worth realising and it is.

Perspective and patience is the order of the day for me.
 

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