Ronald Koeman discussion

[zzebra]

FWIW, Lukaku was quite well known and touted as one for the future well before he played for us, or WBA, or before Chelsea for that matter.

Indeed.

Checkout a thread I found on an Arsenal forum.

They were talking about him in 2010!

https://www.goonersworld.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17744

 

[Jebus_lives]

I know he brought him here and we got record numbers of goals out of him.

That in and of itself was the biggest transfer success in the last 30 years at this club.

He'll leave having scored 70 goals and for a 250% profit on the £27M wisely invested in him.

Hats off to that.

Somehow I doubt we'll have that return off another player we paid £27M for.

And yet the single biggest achivement of his time at Everton is in a season where he has been managed by Koeman. If anything, Martinez not here has been beneficial for Lukaku and his development.

Some lovely intersplicing of actual statistics and opinion presented as fact there.

Also, youve just picked up someone else in the thread for speculation and yet you close your comment with one.

And youve also not actually addressed the original point, just done some more 'Martinez is great' PR in a thread about Koeman.

I know the Martinez thread is a lonely place, but really that is where all of this guff should be.

 

[hktoffee]

The Bayeux Tapestry wouldn't be long enough to list the amount of errors you've managed you utter bozo

You even admit a mistake in the Snivelley thread this morning

Feel inchy again orly? I don't want the mods to tell us to pack it in. If you wanna to be a gramma teacher move yourself in front of the mirror.

 

[orly]

Feel inchy again orly? I don't want the mods to tell us to pack it in. If you wanna to be a gramma teacher go in front of the mirror.

This post literally makes no sense whatsoever. Errors galore.

It's also the Koeman thread, and he's doing a great job.

 

[AndyC]

You dont know that. How can you say what Henry does at Belgian is any greater input than what he received here with Martinez and his coaches or Martinez and other coaches at Belgium. It's just pure speculation.

In the same vein Dave, how can you be sure that Henry is not having a significant input into the coaching of Lukaku and the other Belgian forwards?

To suggest that everything positive about Lukaku is entirely down to Martinez is, in my opinion, preposterous.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Indeed.

Checkout a thread I found on an Arsenal forum.

They were talking about him in 2010!

https://www.goonersworld.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17744

Theres loads of articles talking about how much of a talent he was at Anderlecht. but football didnt exist before Martinez did it...

There are plenty of articles from Rom thanking Steve Clarke for his contributing and 'making me a man'.

What matters for me is that Koeman has him scoring loads of goals and the team is performing superbly, i hope Koeman can hold onto him.

 

[Nymzee]

I think I could learn more from a striker (Henry) than a lower league central midfielder (Martinez).

Personal opinion.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So a self proclaimed Evertonian does not know how much Lukaku cost? It was £28m officially in 2014, a record fee.

Out of all of the sentences in that post, thats an odd one to highlight as ammunition in the debate.

 

[hktoffee]

This post literally makes no sense whatsoever. Errors galore.

It's also the Koeman thread, and he's doing a great job.

Good grief put me on ignore instead of picking a fight. You really have nothing to do in your life.

 

[Groucho]

So a self proclaimed Evertonian does not know how much Lukaku cost? It was £28m officially in 2014, a record fee.

The Bayeux Tapestry wouldn't be long enough to list the amount of errors you've managed you utter bozo

You even admit a mistake in the Snivelley thread this morning

Lads if you could stick each other on ignore it may be a good idea.

 

[degsy]

he was a massive talent that was well known to anyone that payed anything like the smallest amount of interest in European football...its the reason that Chelsea signed him and a host of other massive clubs around the world were interest in him, including Moyes at Everton. The argument that only Martinez was able to spot and devlop this diamond in the rough is just insane.

I don't think Martinez was the only one to 'spot' him, what he did do and what he did to Kenwright and probably many others, is talk totally convincing wham of epic proportions and BS him into signing on loan, the permanently, then to give it one more year.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

In the same vein Dave, how can you be sure that Henry is not having a significant input into the coaching of Lukaku and the other Belgian forwards?

To suggest that everything positive about Lukaku is entirely down to Martinez is, in my opinion, preposterous.

Fabulous word, we don't see it enough

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Lads if you could stick each other on ignore it may be a good idea.

Or get a room maybe?

Sorry, I'm not helping

 

[AndyC]

Fabulous word, we don't see it enough

I wish now I'd preceded it with utterly

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

No. The vaults dont go back to the threads in the summer of 2013 where that evidence is....but of course you know that.

Lol.

Err, they do don't they?

Was the thread deleted?