Ronald Koeman discussion

nsno-chris · January 23, 2017

davek said:
Reed started and finished the Qtr final as did McQueen; Sims came on as a sub.

Reed, McQueen, Stephens and Isgrove all started and finished in round four

Reed, Targett, Hesketh all started and finished in round three.

Oh look ^^^ facts.

Why not have a go at producing one or two of them yourself?

Pfffft!

Lol

Reed- played 15 times under Ronky, 2 under Puel
Isgrove, 1 Ronky, 1 Puel
McQueen - Ronky loaned him out for experience, played 9 under Puel
Hesketh - played 2 times under Ronkster, binned by Puel
Taggart - 20 appearances under the Dutch god, 4 times under Puel

*drops mic

Nymzee · January 23, 2017

davek said:
Reed started and finished the Qtr final as did McQueen; Sims came on as a sub.

Reed, McQueen, Stephens and Isgrove all started and finished in round four

Reed, Targett, Hesketh all started and finished in round three.

Oh look ^^^ facts.

Why not have a go at producing one or two of them yourself?

Pfffft!

Ok facts:

Reed, Stephens, Isgrove, Targett & Hesketh all played under Koeman.

McQueen made the bench for a few games under Koeman.

Sims is the only one to not make either in his two seasons at St Mary's.

Titus Bramble · January 23, 2017

davek said:
Top 4: I expect us to challenge for that each season. You should too shouldn't you?

This ^^^ is the exact type slippage I was referring to earlier in the thread: that we now just settle for a pat on head as best for the rest like we did in the Moyes days.

davek said:
No, no I dont. I've stated umpteen times it's acceptable this season.

Maybe if I say it umpteen times +1 it will work?

There's just one example mate.

Mikeonlythebestwilldo · January 23, 2017

AdamWest said:
People forget that Moyes was a good manager for us. It's actually a compliment to Koeman.

He was but the football and tactics are totally different mate .

Blues Harp · January 23, 2017

RK is steadily getting rid of the rubbish left by El fraudo but it will take some time...I think when he arrived here that his strategy was to look at all the squad and decide on who he wanted to stay and who he didn't. This process has started and results are slowly starting to improve...it may take longer than some of us think but I do not expect miracles overnight....if we end up in the same mess that martinez left us in then ok but I don't expect this to happen. Can't we enjoy the progress for what it is - yes we are unlikely to qualify for the CL this season but whats wrong in trying like hell to win as many of our remaining games as possible...season ended?? Not for me it isn't

AdamWest · January 23, 2017

mellowblue said:
RK is steadily getting rid of the rubbish left by El fraudo but it will take some time...I think when he arrived here that his strategy was to look at all the squad and decide on who he wanted to stay and who he didn't. This process has started and results are slowly starting to improve...it may take longer than some of us think but I do not expect miracles overnight....if we end up in the same mess that martinez left us in then ok but I don't expect this to happen. Can't we enjoy the progress for what it is - yes we are unlikely to qualify for the CL this season but whats wrong in trying like hell to win as many of our remaining games as possible...season ended?? Not for me it isn't

I personally think this is an unnecessary and offensive way to refer to Martinez who despite all his failings as a manager is a decent bloke.

rochdaleblue · January 23, 2017

Let's forget about comparing koemans saints youngsters. All I care about is EFC. I'm delighted that Koeman has seen the light and finally given youth a chance in recent games. Not only has it given the team a lift and the supporters, but most importantly it has given the whole academy a lift. Young players realise that if they listen, work hard enough and apply themselves they too could make the first team one day.

Mikeonlythebestwilldo · January 23, 2017

rochdaleblue said:
Let's forget about comparing koemans saints youngsters. All I care about is EFC. I'm delighted that Koeman has seen the light and finally given youth a chance in recent games. Not only has it given the team a lift and the supporters, but most importantly it has given the whole academy a lift. Young players realise that if they listen, work hard off and apply themselves they too could make the first team one day.

There is 7 out on loan to get valuable experience mate and so far they have done well it's a merit to efc that is mate

bluestevon · January 23, 2017

davek said:
The EL?! FFS, do you really want a new team that's getting forged to be bogged down in the football equivalent of the Vietnam War?

Ok mate, be my guest, see us get a EL place...but dont start objecting when some of us bemoan the massive turkey of a PL campaign next season.

you will complain whatever mate, if we are sat above where you have said is acceptable,you will simply pick up the goalposts and move them and set a new criteria which will allow you to continue your anti-Koeman posts.

So you think a club which has only ever won 1 european trophy in it's history - that we should turn down the chance to compete and win a trophy mate, really?

as for the Eol mate, i have no worry - until we got to the later rounds i believe Koeman has shown he will play a lot of the younger players in the dead rubber games anyways, it's great having a manager who trusts the youth so much isn't it?

BTW as for youth players etc, being involved in the EL would be a fantastic opportunity for them to get more games and more experience.

Good look cheering on your second team in Southampton Dave, you ordered a half and half scarf yet?

bluestevon · January 23, 2017

davek said:
The EL?! FFS, do you really want a new team that's getting forged to be bogged down in the football equivalent of the Vietnam War?

Ok mate, be my guest, see us get a EL place...but dont start objecting when some of us bemoan the massive turkey of a PL campaign next season.

Oh yeah, Got the stats on Saints players compared to Everton ones yet Dave?

davek · January 23, 2017

bluestevon said:
you will complain whatever mate, if we are sat above where you have said is acceptable,you will simply pick up the goalposts and move them and set a new criteria which will allow you to continue your anti-Koeman posts.

So you think a club which has only ever won 1 european trophy in it's history - that we should turn down the chance to compete and win a trophy mate, really?

as for the Eol mate, i have no worry - until we got to the later rounds i believe Koeman has shown he will play a lot of the younger players in the dead rubber games anyways, it's great having a manager who trusts the youth so much isn't it?

BTW as for youth players etc, being involved in the EL would be a fantastic opportunity for them to get more games and more experience.

Good look cheering on your second team in Southampton Dave, you ordered a half and half scarf yet?

I see, we're good enough to win next season's EL...but it's outrageous to ask that Koeman delivers 5th next season.

Back to the drawing board mate.

How's the Kazakhstan PL season going...has it stopped snowing yet?

bluestevon · January 23, 2017

davek said:
I see, we're good enough to win next season's EL...but it's outrageous to ask that Koeman delivers 5th next season.

Back to the drawing board mate.

How's the Kazakhstan PL season going...has it stopped snowing yet?

Show me where i have said we can't finish 5th next season mate, please do, will wait for that one, or is it you basically lying again?

It's going fine Dave, cant wait to see Gundogan turning out for Spartak when they next play, oh wait he's at Man United isn't he.

As for saying we will win it, nope i didn't say that Dave did I? another lie by you - tut tut, what i said was you'd turn down a chance to compete and win a trophy, not a guarantee of winnjing, but the chance to - key word there is chance dave.

We've never won the league cup btw mate, yet you fumed and went on post after post about it when we went out without much effort, so why you not want to 'try' to win another trophy if we can have the chance?

Mikeonlythebestwilldo · January 23, 2017

davek said:
I see, we're good enough to win next season's EL...but it's outrageous to ask that Koeman delivers 5th next season.

Back to the drawing board mate.

How's the Kazakhstan PL season going...has it stopped snowing yet?

Never say never hey mate

JLW · January 23, 2017

davek said:
I see, we're good enough to win next season's EL...but it's outrageous to ask that Koeman delivers 5th next season.

Back to the drawing board mate.

How's the Kazakhstan PL season going...has it stopped snowing yet?

Dave serious questions, please answer honestly we all know you don't like Koeman.

Do you think EFC have progressed under Koeman since he took over?
When would you be won over by Koeman if ever? If so what would he have to do to make you change your mind?
How long should he be given to prove himself before getting the sack?
What players would you want him to get between now and the end of January?

Thomasc · January 23, 2017

AdamWest said:
I personally think this is an unnecessary and offensive way to refer to Martinez who despite all his failings as a manager is a decent bloke.

You are possibly easily offended then.
Know him personally do you?