Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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McBain said:
BREAKING NEWS

Rockin' twins Arayana Supremeca to replace Travis Greene on Trumps Inaugaration line up

*Reuters

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Who????
 
abelard said:
when and why did you start to feel disappointed? just curious...
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It was my American friends, at the time I had no real interest. I think they just felt that the action didn't match the rhetoric for his home policies. For me he lost it with his 'red line' Syria pose, then completely bottled it......
 
ilikecheese said:
I tagged you this morning in response to SN sharing that funding for the arts is going away.

I've read other articles stating the same.

I was curious how you felt about that.

For me it's disappointing. It's such a tiny amount in the big picture...
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First some personal background.

Having spent lots of effort at one point playing the game to get money out of the local arts council for our own 401c3 org, my impression is that it will affect arts administrators a lot more than the actual artists. We found that we provide so much actual music to the community for so little cash (the players, conductors, everyone are volunteers) and we always play for free (though we accept donations) that it was a labor sink to do all the paperwork for grants when our overall outlay didn't really warrant the effort.

We didn't process enough money for it to pay for us because we don't have actual paid employees and the associated expenses. If we did, it would be different. The money we were all chasing basically went to pay for the office staff and admins to process the required paperwork and regulatory information, as well as marketing and administering their organizations. Not that the money from the NEA doesn't do some good work, but there is so much additional overhead by the time everything gets processed through the government that it would be better spent by the folks that consume the art directly on the arts.

That said, though...

I think it's a political mistake by Trump and his advisors, but we'll see what happens. The fact that the NEA has been used as a club in the culture wars for the past forty years in the US is why this is happening. The GOP lost that war long ago, and needs to move on.

Here's an example of the art you can get out of volunteers for nothing. The soloist got paid, but nobody else did. The folks with the hall sponsored us gratis to bring good music to a suburban area with a nice concert hall but not much traffic (building future audience) or much to present to the public yet. We got a couple thousand folks, mainly school kids and their parents who never had gone to a formal concert before. We partnered with the local school music programs to recruit an audience of their students and made admission to the concert free. You can do a lot without directly involving govt or some agency.

 
Tramps_mate said:
What's the odds on him being assassinated?
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Massive. The CIA hates him, the political class hates him, and if he did die then the GOP would get Pence as President for four years. The list of cui bono? would basically consist of everyone in American politics and almost everyone in politics worldwide.
 
mezzrow said:
First some personal background.

Having spent lots of effort at one point playing the game to get money out of the local arts council for our own 401c3 org, my impression is that it will affect arts administrators a lot more than the actual artists. We found that we provide so much actual music to the community for so little cash (the players, conductors, everyone are volunteers) and we always play for free (though we accept donations) that it was a labor sink to do all the paperwork for grants when our overall outlay didn't really warrant the effort.

We didn't process enough money for it to pay for us because we don't have actual paid employees and the associated expenses. If we did, it would be different. The money we were all chasing basically went to pay for the office staff and admins to process the required paperwork and regulatory information, as well as marketing and administering their organizations. Not that the money from the NEA doesn't do some good work, but there is so much additional overhead by the time everything gets processed through the government that it would be better spent by the folks that consume the art directly on the arts.

That said, though...

I think it's a political mistake by Trump and his advisors, but we'll see what happens. The fact that the NEA has been used as a club in the culture wars for the past forty years in the US is why this is happening. The GOP lost that war long ago, and needs to move on.

Here's an example of the art you can get out of volunteers for nothing. The soloist got paid, but nobody else did. The folks with the hall sponsored us gratis to bring good music to a suburban area with a nice concert hall but not much traffic (building future audience) or much to present to the public yet. We got a couple thousand folks, mainly school kids and their parents who never had gone to a formal concert before. We partnered with the local school music programs to recruit an audience of their students and made admission to the concert free. You can do a lot without directly involving govt or some agency.

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Impressed. Your very last sentence sums up the difference between people who want government to fund everything and those willing to just get on and do it........

Oh, who did the clarinet?....
 
peteblue said:
Impressed. Your very last sentence sums up the difference between people who want government to fund everything and those willing to just get on and do it........

Oh, who did the clarinet?....
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Not me, that time. I was on bass (dodged that bullet).

That was Phil Paglialonga, who taught clarinet at Bethune Cookman University at the time.

http://www.squeakbig.com/bio/
 
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