Club GM 4-1-17

[ijjysmith]

Summary anyone?

See @Stan Lee Park 's post a few pages back mate. An excellent little summary as he was there.

 

[bluestevon]

As my other post, good on season tickets but hardly ground breaking, to be fair historically we have always been great on this score.

Yes, I think we will all need a bit more patience - especially me!
Moshiri in his interview did say that there was now a window in which we could make the effort to catch up with the top six, but he wasn't specific on how long that would be or why it was a window and not an ongoing opportunity.

Honest answer mate, because if we ain't caught up by the time we start paying for a stadium move then we won't for a good long whilst.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Breaking my own imposed monatorium on posting I just want to say how delighted I am that all the positives previously expressed about Moshiri are coming to fruition.

Re BM it's now confirmed as our first choice, we have an option to acquire the site and LCC are totally supportive.

The best evening for Evertonians in decades.

It was a good meeting with lots of positives, but I don't remember anything being said about having an option to acquire Bramley Moore ?

I was listening fairly carefully , but I'll be made up if I missed it.

 

[Mrtallywacker]

Breaking my own imposed monatorium on posting I just want to say how delighted I am that all the positives previously expressed about Moshiri are coming to fruition.

Re BM it's now confirmed as our first choice, we have an option to acquire the site and LCC are totally supportive.

The best evening for Evertonians in decades.

Sorry to hear that brother @The Esk, don't stay away too long. God bless.

Proverbs 18:24
A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Shut up saps

Proper moderating that.
Well in michael

They said a 300% on existing deal, if they were referring to the Chang deal which is unclear, that was 5.3 mill deal over three years. Again they didn't go into any specifics. Whether this was a new deal of this nature, a repacement of the old deal, or a 300% rise on the existing deal over a longer period of time. The headline reads well but no specifics. No specifics on anything, just sound bites.

Waste of time.

The current Chang deal was a ~16 million deal over three years, so roughly 5 million a year, whereas your words make it sound like it's 5 million over 3 years.

300% on 5 million / annum ain't to be sneezed at, that's an extra 10 million every year, and 300% in itself is pretty specific.

For sure, it's not in the same ballpark as the current top six, but it's a goodly sized step in the right direction.

If you think that's a waste of time then I reckon you're not living in the real world. Personally I'd say it's pretty much the best a club finishing nowhere significant in the last two seasons could expect.

 

[Elong]

Sorry to hear that brother @The Esk, don't stay away too long. God bless.

Proverbs 18:24
A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.

Talking to your multi?

 

[Woolly Blue]

Why are you always like this?

His mar didn't breast feed him.

Got back from the meeting about an hour ago and have now had time to reflect on it.
My overall feelings are positive because of the following:
- the commitment of Moshiri seems to be far greater than I thought it was
- a new stadium looks more likely than I previously thought, even though there are still some significant hurdles to clear
- Plan A for the stadium is the dock, but we also have a plan B and possibly a Plan C (not something we had in place for the last three aborted moves)
- Although there are still questions over commercial revenue, there do seem to be improvements. Obviously the biggest of these is the TV revenue (£10m per year per club from China alone)
- Our fans are great: not only have they given generously to food banks, they have also bought several beers for Moshiri on the train up from London
- EITC are just the best. Fantastic - and recognised worldwide as the best.

Some negative feelings though:
- Moshiri admits that we are playing catch-up with the top six financially and that this may take time
- Moshiri ranks a good Premier League position above winning the FA Cup, and I suspect that Ronald agrees
- Koeman is not here for the long term. I don't think Walsh is either, even though his brother played for Everton

If anybody has any questions on specific points from the meeting, please ask and I'll do my best to respond!

I think Walshie will be around for 5 years plus mate. He has roots in the North West and, barring any future health issues, doesn't seem the type to put his feet up and watch the world go by in retirement.

Agree with you on Koeman though, I'd be surprised if he doesn't see us as a stepping stone.

 

[BlueToff]

It was a good meeting with lots of positives, but I don't remember anything being said about having an option to acquire Bramley Moore ?

I was listening fairly carefully , but I'll be made up if I missed it.

I wasn't there (I'm no shareholdeR) but from what I've read it just seemed that BMD is certainly everybody's first choice, but they were prepping us for the fact that (as @MoutsGoat and others have said) it will be an extremely difficult venture, so it's probably 50/50 as to whether it's going to happen. In the balance - basically, but everybody is pushing for it to happen.

That was my understanding. Not sure if @The Esk thinks/understands differently.

 

[BlueToff]

It was a good meeting with lots of positives, but I don't remember anything being said about having an option to acquire Bramley Moore ?

I was listening fairly carefully , but I'll be made up if I missed it.

I wasn't there (I'm no shareholdeR) but from what I've read it just seemed that BMD is certainly everybody's first choice, but they were prepping us for the fact that (as @MoutsGoat and others have said) it will be an extremely difficult venture, so it's probably 50/50 as to whether it's going to happen. In the balance - basically, but everybody is pushing for it to happen.

That was my understanding. Not sure if @The Esk thinks/understands differently.

 

[timmyistop]

Proper moderating that.
Well in michael



The current Chang deal was a ~16 million deal over three years, so roughly 5 million a year, whereas your words make it sound like it's 5 million over 3 years.

300% on 5 million / annum ain't to be sneezed at, that's an extra 10 million every year, and 300% in itself is pretty specific.

For sure, it's not in the same ballpark as the current top six, but it's a goodly sized step in the right direction.

If you think that's a waste of time then I reckon you're not living in the real world. Personally I'd say it's pretty much the best a club finishing nowhere significant in the last two seasons could expect.

Current deal of 5 million increasing by 300% would be an extra £15million per year. Decent increase!

 

[davek]

Stadium: pie in the sky nonsense. Anyone who's trying to hang a hat on the pocketfuls of promises and cryptic messaging need to give their heads a wobble. It isn't happening anytime soon if at all.

The most chilling commentary there tonight though was Moshiri's message regarding being self sustaining. He's been here for less than a year and not put a penny into the squad yet, now he's talking of having a good window before the shackles go on.

This is not the dream takeover as sold. It's just not.

 

[Goat]

Stadium: pie in the sky nonsense. Anyone who's trying to hang a hat on the pocketfuls of promises and cryptic messaging need to give their heads a wobble. It isn't happening anytime soon if at all.

The most chilling commentary there tonight though was Moshiri's message regarding being self sustaining. He's been here for less than a year and not put a penny into the squad yet, now he's talking of having a good window before the shackles go on.

This is not the dream takeover as sold. It's just not.

lollollol

 

[jinkyali]

Stadium: pie in the sky nonsense. Anyone who's trying to hang a hat on the pocketfuls of promises and cryptic messaging need to give their heads a wobble. It isn't happening anytime soon if at all.

The most chilling commentary there tonight though was Moshiri's message regarding being self sustaining. He's been here for less than a year and not put a penny into the squad yet, now he's talking of having a good window before the shackles go on.

This is not the dream takeover as sold. It's just not.

I suspect sustainability was in reference to revenue performance .
You must be frothing tonight.

 

[Woolly Blue]

I wasn't there (I'm no shareholdeR) but from what I've read it just seemed that BMD is certainly everybody's first choice, but they were prepping us for the fact that (as @MoutsGoat and others have said) it will be an extremely difficult venture, so it's probably 50/50 as to whether it's going to happen. In the balance - basically, but everybody is pushing for it to happen.

That was my understanding. Not sure if @The Esk thinks/understands differently.

I was there mate and came away with the feeling that there's a real will to make Bramley Moore work, but they were trying to manage expectations a little in case it doesn't happen.

There are obviously some issues, but I'd put it at 80%+ likely that we'll end up down in the docks.

If we don't, then it won't be because of a lack of effort.

 

[Goat]

I was there mate and came away with the feeling that there's a real will to make Bramley Moore work, but they were trying to manage expectations a little in case it doesn't happen.

There are obviously some issues, but I'd put it at 80%+ likely that we'll end up down in the docks.

If we don't, then it won't be because of a lack of effort.

That was mainly my point, the desire is defo there, but thats not always enough.