Ronald Koeman discussion

Blues Harp · January 2, 2017

Cant bully someone who chats Wham..... lollollol

arch stanton · January 2, 2017

mountain head managed the game alright today.

Lanolin · January 2, 2017

dannyboy said:
Win games?

Just because we aren't doing that ridiculous passing game anymore (which didn't suit us), doesn't mean they aren't trying things on the training ground. How bad our wide attacking players have been this year has really affected how we can hurt the opposition.

Well yes I would certainly hope that's the case. Otherwise we're all kind of wasting our time aren't we? Of course it would be great if he'd managed to do it more than 4 times in 15 games but ok, thatsh football.

I meant it in a little bit more of a tactical sense like, but nevermind, i know analysis isn't for everyone and some people just see the basics.

rochdaleblue · January 2, 2017

bluestevon said:
Yeah noticed the 'he doesn't play kids' argument has stopped being used as much now.

Could have and maybe should have been 3 if holgate was selected. But ok two will do.

bignev23 · January 2, 2017

Lanolin said:
Well yes I would certainly hope that's the case. Otherwise we're all kind of wasting our time aren't we? Of course it would be great if he'd managed to do it more than 4 times in 15 games but ok, thatsh football.

I meant it in a little bit more of a tactical sense like, but nevermind, i know analysis isn't for everyone and some people just see the basics.

Have we only played 15 games though ? honest t god, turn it in lad.

dannyboy · January 2, 2017

Lanolin said:
Well yes I would certainly hope that's the case. Otherwise we're all kind of wasting our time aren't we? Of course it would be great if he'd managed to do it more than 4 times in 15 games but ok, thatsh football.

I meant it in a little bit more of a tactical sense like, but nevermind, i know analysis isn't for everyone and some people just see the basics.

I think we can be bogged down with over analysis though. After the top 6 we're all battling to finish wherever we can and at the moment we're the best of the rest.

I know Liverpool press and that City/Arsenal play a passing game, but could I tell you how teams outside of the top 6 play? Probably not. It varies from game to game depending on circumstances.

Lanolin · January 2, 2017

bignev23 said:
Have we only played 15 games mate ? honest t god, turn it in mate.

Turn what in? I was genuinely being positive, just wasn't sure why someone was being sarky so pointing out that we haven't exactly been brilliant recently.

I'm honest and fair (unlike many on here). I've knocked Koeman this season but I'm acknowledging that there have been positive signs recently and crediting him for it. I still don't think we've nailed it yet but I'm hoping we carry on on this upward curve. Maybe you'd be happier if I lurched from saying we're going to win the league to saying we're useless like many do, but I'm quite happy with my own way of looking at things cheers.

Lanolin · January 2, 2017

dannyboy said:
I think we can be bogged down with over analysis though. After the top 6 we're all battling to finish wherever we can and at the moment we're the best of the rest.

I know Liverpool press and that City/Arsenal play a passing game, but could I tell you how teams outside of the top 6 play? Probably not. It varies from game to game depending on circumstances.

I agree with that and as I said above I'm not knocking Koeman, I'm actually admitting I may have been harsh and saying well done on recent performances. I'd still like to see us develop a plan though, as I'm pretty sure he would himself. Our results have been up and down, all I'm saying is I hope we've seen the worst and the best is yet to come. Don't think it's a particularly controversial viewpoint.

fandjango · January 2, 2017

Lanolin said:
Well yes I would certainly hope that's the case. Otherwise we're all kind of wasting our time aren't we? Of course it would be great if he'd managed to do it more than 4 times in 15 games but ok, thatsh football.

I meant it in a little bit more of a tactical sense like, but nevermind, i know analysis isn't for everyone and some people just see the basics.

WOW I feel so inferior

dannyboy · January 2, 2017

Lanolin said:
I agree with that and as I said above I'm not knocking Koeman, I'm actually admitting I may have been harsh and saying well done on recent performances. I'd still like to see us develop a plan though, as I'm pretty sure he would himself. Our results have been up and down, all I'm saying is I hope we've seen the worst and the best is yet to come. Don't think it's a particularly controversial viewpoint.

Fair enough, mate. I think the plans will always change from game to game with us. We're just not good enough to go into the game regardless of the opposition and play our way. Not many teams are.

At the moment we're grinding out results by someway or another. I think that's what most teams in the league are doing as well. Hopefully come the season end we'll have a bit more free flowing football to enjoy.

bignev23 · January 3, 2017

Lanolin said:
Turn what in? I was genuinely being positive, just wasn't sure why someone was being sarky so pointing out that we haven't exactly been brilliant recently.

I'm honest and fair (unlike many on here). I've knocked Koeman this season but I'm acknowledging that there have been positive signs recently and crediting him for it. I still don't think we've nailed it yet but I'm hoping we carry on on this upward curve. Maybe you'd be happier if I lurched from saying we're going to win the league to saying we're useless like many do, but I'm quite happy with my own way of looking at things cheers.

Just thought it a bit strange that you mentioned winning 4 of 15 when we've won 8 of 20, that's only reason I quoted it.

It is what it is there is plenty of room for improvement but we've now won 3 of the last 5 losing only once and beating a side in the top 4 so hopefully that slump in form is over.

Cork Evertonian · January 3, 2017

A bit of talk about Davek being a victim of internet bullying.I like Davek a lot and in general he is one of my favourite posters here.But for me i find his views expressed both on the old Roberto Martinez thread and this one to be a bit crazy and ridiculous.So i think as a consequence of that he draws the ire of posters on here.It's very obvious that he is still throwing his toys out of the pram over Martinez getting kicked out which is the main reason behind his persistent anti Koeman agenda!To be honest i find it more hilarious than infuriating.I honestly don't think Davek is a victim of nasty attention from certain individuals on here.If he is though then i have no doubt that he is well able to handle himself.This place would be boring as hell if we all had the same opinions.So for that reason alone there is a place for Daveks views and opinions.

Cork Evertonian · January 3, 2017

Apart from the second half in the derby and the Hull game it's been a pretty decent christmas period.Southampton ended last season in much better shape than us.Yet were now 6 points ahead of them.That's pretty impressive on Koemans part imo.There's still plenty to work on but i think Koeman has done a lot of things right as well during the first few months of his reign.

riddick · January 3, 2017

Cork Evertonian said:
Apart from the second half in the derby and the Hull game it's been a pretty decent christmas period.Southampton ended last season in much better shape than us.Yet were now 6 points ahead of them.That's pretty impressive on Koemans part imo.There's still plenty to work on but i think Koeman has done a lot of things right as well during the first few months of his reign.

to be honest i'm not sure what he's aiming for. we're doing pretty OK in the league and, if his normal trends continue, we should be picking up a lot of points, but I have no idea what the final form is here.

Zatara · January 3, 2017

Koeman may well be the greatest manager of all time, I think @davek @Khalekan and myself (and others) may have been quick to judge him...

Perhaps I have been blinded by my pure hatred of him due to his below average career so far wrecking teams along the way..however;

Any manager who can have a team playing this badly with no structure, no consistency and what appears to be poor management of game time for players with a long ball strategy...

But still get us to 7th....

Must be the Greatest Manager EVER!!!

Edit: However Pulis is right behind us so hes in good company.

Best 2 managers in the world!!!