Ronald Koeman discussion

[orly]

I thought the conversation ends.

It is quitevly imperararative that we get to the bottom of what surroundering means and talk about Koeman, who is doing a cracking job of being not Martinez

 

[DrEFC]

I mean, he's not wrong at all is he Friend? He's absolutely right.

Nope he's wrong. Stones (Moyes signing) cost 3mill, sold for how much? We ain't making that much on Lukaku, though I hope we do!! (After he's fed up of being in the Everton treble winning side)
Kinda hoping having Walsh in negates Koeman having to choose players.

 

[Prevenger17]

It is quitevly imperararative that we get to the bottom of what surroundering means and talk about Koeman, who is doing a cracking job of being not Martinez

Indubioustly

 

[smileychap]

Agree to a point, but the majority of our current squad have been in decline for the last 2 years. Yes koeman should be getting more out of them, but there is a limit to what he can do with a squad in decline. Up until the last match he had the same number of points as klopp after his first 18 games, with a far inferior squad and look where klopp has taken them with some shrewd acquisitions. I'm not expecting us to be challenging for the league, but I'm sure I'd koeman is able to get the players he wants, evidence shows from Southampton his teams can play an attractive and winning style of football.

Fair points in that.

Who would you say is 'in decline'? I think there are players who may not 'improve' much owing to age, as such (Jags, Barry, Lennon, Baines), but equally those players can still be match winners (esp. Baines, Barry) on their day. Trying to think who I'd be keen to move on in the short-term..

• Williams/Jags? Jags has been solid and remains pretty error free. So a 'No' to him. Williams likewise. RFM? Seems OK.
• A few maybes that I don't think fit Koeman's style:
  Cleverley, maybe Barry (who's been excellent) if he suffered injury. Both lack pace.
  Lennon/Mirallas/Del have always seemed a bit stop/start and I don't think represent the physicality Koeman likes with his freakin ebony fetish. I love watching Del when he's on fire though and think he deserves a few FA Cup games to get his confidence back and a half season to show what he's got.
• Baines & Coleman - NO
  Personal favourites of mine and can be an example to young ones coming through.
• Gueye, Barkley, Holgate, Calvert, Lookman
  Represent future, along with Lukaku as long as we have him. Would like to see Galloway back too.

 

[orly]

Nope he's wrong. Stones cost 3mill, sold for how much? We ain't making that much on Lukaku, though I hope we do!! (After he's fed up of being in the Everton treble winning side)

I reckon we will easily, plus the value that Lukaku has already brought to the side (ie goals)

Three cheers for @boris

 

[Saint Domingo]

No, it's been pretty dire watching most of the time. Things have to improve - but that will take time.

Yes it will, but some fans have been waiting for 2 decades. We've barely had a Derby win or an away win at a top side for long periods of that. In fact, any footballing event that can bring joy such as last minute winners, comeback wins, big European nights or semi final wins, seem to have disappeared from the Everton experience entirely. Therefore a bit of whingeing on an Internet forum is more than acceptable given most self respecting fan groups would probably have protested years earlier.

 

[hktoffee]

I thought the conversation ends.

What do you think let him misquote my post and accuse me of something I did not say?

 

[banno]

Add Palace to that and there is a paltry three points against four of the worst sides

This is why I say it is disgraceful we are so far behind the team in sixth place.

Think you have just proved Ijjy correct. Its the same old same old. Think we should just wait for Koeman to build his team then we will be able to judge better if its the same old same old Everton then we can slam him justifiably...but not just yet.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Fair points in that.

Who would you say is 'in decline'? I think there are players who may not 'improve' much owing to age, as such (Jags, Barry, Lennon, Baines), but equally those players can still be match winners (esp. Baines, Barry) on their day. Trying to think who I'd be keen to move on in the short-term..

• Williams/Jags? Jags has been solid and remains pretty error free. So a 'No' to him. Williams likewise. RFM? Seems OK.
• A few maybes that I don't think fit Koeman's style:
  Cleverley, maybe Barry (who's been excellent) if he suffered injury. Both lack pace.
  Lennon/Mirallas/Del have always seemed a bit stop/start and I don't think represent the physicality Koeman likes with his freakin ebony fetish. I love watching Del when he's on fire though and think he deserves a few FA Cup games to get his confidence back and a half season to show what he's got.
• Baines & Coleman - NO
  Personal favourites of mine and can be an example to young ones coming through.
• Gueye, Barkley, Holgate, Calvert, Lookman
  Represent future, along with Lukaku as long as we have him. Would like to see Galloway back too.

WTF?

 

[orly]

• Lennon/Mirallas/Del have always seemed a bit stop/start and I don't think represent the physicality Koeman likes with his freakin ebony fetish.

OH JESUS CHRIST!!!!

 

[DrEFC]

I reckon we will easily, plus the value that Lukaku has already brought to the side (ie goals)

Three cheers for @boris

I'm lost! I thought the debate was that Moyes buys would make more profit. That they likely will despite the absolutely stupid fees (ah just remember Naismith) going about.

 

[orly]

I'm lost! I thought the debate was that Moyes buys would make more profit. They likely will despite the absolutely stupid fees (ah just remember Naismith) going about.

To be honest mate, after @smileychap 's post above about ebony fetishes my mind has gone anyway, holy moly

 

[DrEFC]

Fair points in that.

Who would you say is 'in decline'? I think there are players who may not 'improve' much owing to age, as such (Jags, Barry, Lennon, Baines), but equally those players can still be match winners (esp. Baines, Barry) on their day. Trying to think who I'd be keen to move on in the short-term..

• Williams/Jags? Jags has been solid and remains pretty error free. So a 'No' to him. Williams likewise. RFM? Seems OK.
• A few maybes that I don't think fit Koeman's style:
  Cleverley, maybe Barry (who's been excellent) if he suffered injury. Both lack pace.
  Lennon/Mirallas/Del have always seemed a bit stop/start and I don't think represent the physicality Koeman likes with his freakin ebony fetish. I love watching Del when he's on fire though and think he deserves a few FA Cup games to get his confidence back and a half season to show what he's got.
• Baines & Coleman - NO
  Personal favourites of mine and can be an example to young ones coming through.
• Gueye, Barkley, Holgate, Calvert, Lookman
  Represent future, along with Lukaku as long as we have him. Would like to see Galloway back too.

 

[Prevenger17]

What do you think let him misquote my post and accuse me of something I did not say?

You could always follow a particularly apt piece of advice one poster put up here earlier.

Put me on ignore.

 

[orly]

What do you think let him misquote my post and accuse me of something I did not say?

It was a fair representation of what you meant though