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Little Ralphy
Player Valuation: £15m
Williams has been poor, it's amazing he gets away with the performances he's been putting in while Jags is getting slaughtered for the same thing
Gueye started amazing and then has gone off the boil completely - possibly back to his normal level
Bolasie is everything he was at Palace. Unpredictable, who is not a prolific with assists or goals. At the minute it seems like Everton have gambled massively on this lad being able to make a step up and it's just not happening.
Lukaku is poor at the minute but I'd defo want to keep him, but can't see that happening to be fair.
I think you've been harsh on Coleman, very often he's the only one seems to actually care what's happening.
I'd also want to keep Barkley. I thought he started positively yesterday, but quickly faded as the movement off the ball at Everton is shocking.
Koeman has a massive job to do, and I think questions are already starting to be asked about him. He would often go on these runs with no wins at Southampton but would turn them around and they'd pick up wins to climb back up. But he inherited a young side built by Pochetino who were very organised and hard working. Here he's inherited the complete opposite and the job is a massive one.
I'd imagine he has crossed off a lot of names from the squad and the list to move on will be huge now. I just hope the club can move a lot of them on (given Martinez/the club gave some ridiculous contracts) and we can bring in some genuine quality.
I know people say Barry plays well etc. but I can't help but think that if we had genuine quality in the centre of midfield then the players around them would improve as a result.
The current spine of the team lacks pace and workrate.
bluewally
Player Valuation: £8m
Chelsea are 1st, Liverpool are 2nd, united are 6th, Leicester 14th, West ham 16th, Sunderland 20th
so the irrelevant thing is a league table based on wage bills
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
You maybe right.
But imo it will be a travesty if this lad doesn't get at least 15/20 games in centre midfield. Considering McCarthy & cleverly have had plenty of games there.
Of the top of my head I can think of 5 games he's played in centre midfield. The derby 3 yrs ago, after baines went off and Barry went to left back. Had an excellent game, and still one of his best performances. Which is quite sad 3yrs on.
Towards the end of that season when we we beat Arsenal 3-0. He played in a left side midfield role alongside Barry and McCarthy. While he wasn't brilliant, he did have a very good disciplined game.
I think it was the very next game, we lost to palace 3-2. But Ross was the one player who was driving us on. Especially in the last 20mins at 3-1 down. Had a hand in our 2nd goal. Set up a great chance for mirralas. And forced the keeper into a great save.
The following season the QPR I know it's only QPR. But he have a good game alongside besic.
And towards the end of last season the game at old Trafford. Barry was out abd Martinez played him infront of the back 4. And he had a very poor game.
Maybe going to a back 3 and play him and gana infront. Worth a try imo. I've never thought he was a number 10
yes , but HK did not have the funds we were skint he had spent a bit it had all gone - Morishi reported to have a 100 billion transfer budget it was sell to buy again I look at RK and he looks like he wishes he never came here, and wants out, and is doing his best to force Morishis hand in January, tbh The monies spent on compensation for RK and the departure of RM is mind blowing - also the blues stuck with HK as he was a blue!
orly
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Manager is largely irrelevant, discuss in relation to table below.
We've raised wages by nearly 21% (maths not goodly) to make a worse team in three years?
You're easily please mate.........The only criticism you've got of Koeman is that he didn't bring in someone creative??
I honestly can't see anything he's done well since he got here...nothing, nada!!
Glad it's not just me who's been massively underwhelmed by Williams.
Not saying he's been terrible but he's not been any better than average for me. His much vaunted leadership and organisational skills haven't exactly helped have they? We look no more organised than we did with the supposed liability of Stones in there. We conceded 5 at Chelsea, and could easily have done the same yesterday. Not sure how a centre half appears to be avoiding criticism when that's happening.
I like Gueye a lot but I agree that maybe people were quick to decide that he was a world beater earlier in the season. He's still been one of our better players but I think it's fair to say he hasn't looked quite the same player over the last month or so in comparison to the one who was a one man wrecking ball in the first 4 or 5 games.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £40m
This for me is the most pertinent of points. Barkley has very little choice as to what to do with the ball when he gets it. He can shift it out wide, move it backwards, of try and hold onto it.
Koeman talks about a pressing game, but utilises Bolasie who is very much set for a counter attacking game, has pace in abundance, but very little else in my opinion. If hes in a tight space, he struggles, he needs to be running at a player. The pressing game does two things, it closes down the opposition forcing them into mistakes and tightens up spaces for yourself, if you win the ball in that tight space you need to be able to deal with it, and be comfortable under pressure, we arent. You also need players who will make space and be able to get between the lines, whcih again, we haven't got. Lukaku's biggest weakness for me is his close control, meaning he struggles playing within and against a pressing team.
Koeman has a decision to make, Counter attacking, or Pressing, both require different methods, and more importantly both require majorly upgraded playing staff
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
We did try to go 3 at the back for 2/3 times it did not work.
Maybe we can try 4-3-3 with 3CM or even go with 2 up front. Any change will surely help.
ryanbeno80
Player Valuation: £750k
IMO Williams has been our best player defensively by a distance, the incompetence of others has made it hard for him to stand out, defence is about the unit as a whole and I think he will grow into a really solid CB for us as we improve as a unit and add new faces.
In my eyes, Gueye's job is to cover ground, turn over possession and give it simple to a creative player which stats show he is one of, if not the best at this in the league this season. But due to the other players not doing their job Gueye has had to try turn provider, run at the oppositions defence and get into goal scoring positions at times which isn't his game. He has gave the ball away, been caught in possession and missed sitters but at least he has the character to step up out his comfort zone and try and make something happen whilst others are hiding.
I don't know how people can criticise the likes of Bolasie and Lukaku, they rely on service which they have had very little of this year and have still managed to be one of the leagues most effective partnerships.
As for Coleman, we have had much worse performers, but to name them is stating the obvious so I looked at players we consider to be some of our best and Coleman IMO has been substandard this season. Poor defensively, and his final ball has also been poor.. on his day he's great but we haven't seen it enough, maybe he doesn't suit Koemans system.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £40m
Mate, Bolasie runs at you, your the defender, what do you think he's going to do? He'll roll the ball under his foot, toey it and run after it. Any defender worth his salt will have him taped in the tunnel. He'll only get past you if he catches you on the turn due to a counter. We struggle with him doing anything if we're building from the back cause their defence gets organised. He only seems capable of capitalising on the mistakes of others, not forcing them. Also, I'm fed up of watching him waiting for the ball to come to him, its grade one football. It looks like he works hard cause he's always chasing the balls he kicks.
That sums him up perfectly, its all he did for Palace. He rinsed teams on the counter, hug the touchline and wait for the move to breakdown before the defender wellies it up field and chases after it like a cheetah hyped up on sugar.
His generally ability to play football is awful, its stuff you'd get bollocked for on the sunday league pitches as a kid
penev10
Player Valuation: £5m
Ah now its not really but some good points there.
Obviously the league is only 13 games old but the wage table give a good indication of whether a manager is under or over achieving. Chelsea being top is only a 3% over-achievement in wage terms, where as the RS in 2nd is a 21% etc etc.. (You can only really look at these things long term and usually a manager doesn't stick around long enough, 5+ years)
Going by this we'd need something like a 50% swing based on Manager over-achievement and luck/form or whatever to get 6th, just seems like a stretch.
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