Ronald Koeman discussion

Bungle · November 26, 2016

deipnosophist said:
I like you Bungle. You lend a texture to this forum that is best described as inimitable.
Whenever I am feeling a little down and in need of a smile, I recall the post you made about the time you tripped up that noisy kid in the cinema. Always makes me laugh

Me and cinemas don't get on, I broke a seat after trying to race my son down one of the rows and tripped and crashed straight through it.

KOEMAN OUT!

neil999 · November 26, 2016

Bungle said:
Me and cinemas don't get on, I broke a seat after trying to race my son down one of the rows and tripped and crashed straight through it.

KOEMAN OUT!

Sorry to hear that

KUEFC09U2 · November 26, 2016

Tubey said:
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Koeman is unhappy by the way. He got sold up the river big style in the summer.

Did he not admit himself that some of the late transfer activity was down to him evaluating the squad? Hardly sold down the river!,

Goat · November 26, 2016

Tubey said:
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Koeman is unhappy by the way. He got sold up the river big style in the summer.

FFS

Dont fall for Davids SS style propaganda.

Oh I give up, screw you Dave.

Tubey · November 26, 2016

KUEFC09U2 said:
Did he not admit himself that some of the late transfer activity was down to him evaluating the squad? Hardly sold down the river!,

He said he wanted three or four in about a month before the window shut. Let's not rewrite history.

davek · November 26, 2016

Tubey said:
You don't have to tolerate him as more than a short term appointment, because that's exactly what he is. He's here three years at the very most.

I agree with a lot of what you say, but when you criticise his CV but laud Martinez, it strikes me as hollow. He is, in theory, the most impressive managerial appointment we've made since Kendall in the 90s. That said, I agree with you that I expected a bit more of a stamp in terms of style of play - even if that is just hit and hope and press, then fine, but I'm not seeing any pressing despite him constantly going on about it.

I don't elevate Martinez over Koeman. I just refuse to accept that Koeman is a vast improvement. And I don't accept his CV says otherwise. He hasn't done anything of note and that's why he's passed over for the elite jobs in the game.

We're not getting any calibre of manager that flatters us, that's for sure.

paultheblue · November 26, 2016

I think we will win tomorrow but I have to agree that I am not overwhelmed by the start made by Keoman.It is of course to early to judge him as an Everton manager but as a man I dont find him easy to like ,He is a football mercenary I have never liked players or managers who promise allegence to a club then do one as soon as someone offers more money.

Tubey · November 26, 2016

paultheblue said:
I think we will win tomorrow but I have to agree that I am not overwhelmed by the start made by Keoman.It is of course to early to judge him as an Everton manager but as a man I dont find him easy to like ,He is a football mercenary I have never liked players or managers who promise allegence to a club then do one as soon as someone offers more money.

Spot on.

I don't actually mind him being a mercenary actually. What I do mind is him disrespecting the stature of the club with his comments about Lukaku and generally looking like he's perfectly happy to do the bare minimum and slightly improve on the disastrous Martinez, which any number of managers could have done.

So yeah, it's not that he's a mercenary - it's that he's a completely unlikable one.

ianefc · November 26, 2016

davek said:
I don't elevate Martinez over Koeman. I just refuse to accept that Koeman is a vast improvement. And I don't accept his CV says otherwise. He hasn't done anything of note and that's why he's passed over for the elite jobs in the game.

We're not getting any calibre of manager that flatters us, that's for sure.

davek · November 26, 2016

MoutsGoat said:
OMG

Dave says Koeman is unhappy and nobody even questions it??????????????????

FFS

HES A DIRTY LIAR.

Not me. Charlie Nicholas. At least read the posts.

The Esk · November 26, 2016

davek said:
Yeah, Charlie Nicholas on SoccerSaturday earlier today stated that he's heard Koeman is an unhappy man at Everton.

Dave I think you ought to take your own advice from 2013

davek said:
How can anyone take seriously that buffoon (Merson) and Nicholas making judgements on Everton this early?

They get paid to come up with sensationalist ****e. They just delivered by the bucket-load.

Goat · November 26, 2016

AT LAST SOME SENSE

ianefc · November 26, 2016

davek said:
No. The player manager relationship was broken and couldn't be fixed.

I reiterate: Koeman was my choice before he even became an official candidate for the job. So I was happy we turned to him.

Now he's here, though, I don't like what I see. I think it might be a mistake. His attitude and the way he sets up teams are either much different to the way he acted and performed professionally at Southampton, or I just didn't pay attention enough to him as their manager. Whatever, I don't feel myself warrming to his style of management and, more importantly, I don't like his way of setting up teams to play.

As stated though: there'll be no calls for his resignation from me in the next 12 months. I'll criticise if I think it's right to do so, but I won't join in with any demands he leaves if it comes to that point over the next year...although I hope (and don't think) it will come to that.

you ok mate?